Correlation: Prayer out of schools to increase in mass shootings

Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy had prayers when they were in school. Prayers in school didn’t help shite, and you’re a nutcase if you think this was what was holding them back.

Even with the increase in mass shootings, the individuals and the factors surrounding each shooting, are so unique from each other--let alone the broader population--that it's highly unlikely that we'll ever narrow it down to one potential causal factor and none of the recent attempts (guns, culture, etc) have contradicted its improbability.

"The further one is from God, the less common sense one has."
"Just going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than standing in your garage makes you a car."
"Education is simply the soul of a society as it passes from one generation to another."

G.K. Chesterton

As God has been removed from our schools, He has gradually been removed from our society too. Now we get shootings, stabbings, gang fights, rape, etc where kids are supposed to be educated.

I don't think it's necessarily prayer being the issue as much as it is a symptom of the real problem: the rejection of God in the public square.

Christians had a big influence on the culture in this country for a long, long time. As that influence of Christianity started waning and the influence of humanistic worldviews took root, we started seeing a fast decline in morality. Since the 60's, open sexuality has flourished. We went from seeing homosexuality as an immoral practice (and even a mental illness) to getting preference above religious convictions. Abortion became a staple of American "family planning" during that time, as well.

I expect this to only get worse as the Christian influence continues to evaporate in our culture. It won't be long until every thing the Church holds dear is openly attacked and Christianity is forced into the shadows due to its teachings being viewed as dangerous to the worldview of the age.

Home discipline and desensitization to violence has more to do with It.

You can still pray in schools. You just can’t force it on kids. Is that what you mean?

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I (a Christian) had a thought. The thought I had, was if there was an increase of school shootings that correlated with the time of prayer being taken out of schools. What I found was unfortunately not surprising. Here are a few articles that can shed some light on that.
The year that prayer was removed from school was 1962, and the chart that starts talking about the increase in mass shootings starts in 1982. I do not this is coincidence.
What I mean by the timing, is that 20 years is about a generation. My hypothesis was/is that the more generations removed without prayer in school, the more shootings,suicides,overdoses and etc.

But yea, blame it on the inanimate objects.

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Sadly, your hypothesis is just as rooted in belief as the inanimate object hypothesis.

You're only drawing a correlation between a school shooting frequency and forced prayer, without considering other variables that are also at play.

People draw similar correlations to video games, the rate we medicate our kids, the birth of band members that formed Nickelback, and so on.

But how do you explain the significant DECLINE in murder rate, robbery, and assault over the same period of time? We now live longer. Fewer people now smoke cigarettes. We now have more women in the workplace. We have more women and minorities in management positions than ever before. Are we to now CREDIT the removal of forced prayer for all of those things that have happened?

Wait this is my talking point

Cum hoc ergo propter hoc! Correlation is not causation.