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re: Accepting Mediocrity is the first step to irrelevance
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:24 am to ibleedprplngld
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:24 am to ibleedprplngld
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Accepting Mediocrity is the first step to irrelevance
I'm all ears if you have a better suggestion. I've done everything on my part to protest the status quo. It's not going to make a difference but I feel better.
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:25 am to ibleedprplngld
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No I don't. It's a message board. What do you expect people to do? Not bitch about what they see?
Yes. I expect people to not look for the negative in everything that is LSU football. Every thread turns to a bunch of petunias whining and shrinking and spreading negativity wherever they can. For example-- a thread that says "positives about football" will inevitably devolve into a bunch a negative nellies saying there is nothing to be positive about. People are still whining and posting and bitching about the hiring process-- news alert -- it's over and done.
How does brining it up again change anything?
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:34 am to beauxroux
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I expect people to not look for the negative in everything that is LSU football
If you can give me some positives, I'm all ears. They are few and far between. For every "positive" about the program, there is an equal explanation that is negative. For example, LSU goes 6-1 after the Troy lose. Only problem is that 4 of the teams they beat fired their head coach for poor performance and 1 lost the HC before the season. Another example, LSU finished with a top 15 recruiting class, only it was the lowest rated class in a decade. See how it works? The problem is that there is very little to be positive about.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:40 am to BilltheTiger
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Curious, just how do you know this? Admit it, you don't know jack about Orgeron or what he is capable of. You look at the surface and make a judgement without any knowledge of what you are talking about.
So let me get this straight, a coach who has been around for the better part of 30 years and failed at his only full time HC position and hadn't been offered another since and we don't know what he's capable of?
History is very telling about the future.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:45 am to ibleedprplngld
You literally said quote:
we don’t know what he’s capable of.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:49 am to BayouBoogie
Not worry about things you can't control and just enjoying yourself is the first step to remembering it's a game.
I want LSU to win just as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to let things I can't control ruin my existence. A lot of Francis' out here.
I want LSU to win just as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to let things I can't control ruin my existence. A lot of Francis' out here.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:50 am to ibleedprplngld
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his best is not good enough
This is where train goes off the track on here.
Not the first one of you know how true or untrue this is.
You can guess, speculate and ponder on it all day.
But fact is you don't know shite to be true.
Going to have to wait and see.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:56 am to SteveLSU35
I agree. I would somewhat understand the frustration if CEO was voted in to be HC by the fan base. But he wasn’t, it was the LSU Administration.
He’s done OK so far. I’m really looking for improvement in the trenches this coming football season.
He’s done OK so far. I’m really looking for improvement in the trenches this coming football season.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:56 am to ibleedprplngld
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If you can give me some positives, I'm all ears.
Dave Aranda and this defense is gonna be nasty this year. I know about the CB depth issues but I don’t think it’s anything that Aranda can’t handle and scheme around.
You can Start there for positives.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:57 am to ibleedprplngld
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:10 am to ibleedprplngld
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For every "positive" about the program, there is an equal explanation that is negative.
As is with every aspect in life. You can always find a positive or negative (1/2 empty,1/2 full). Constantly looking for the negative does not mean you care more.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:13 am to beauxroux
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Constantly looking for the negative does not mean you care more.
Oh snap
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:21 am to ibleedprplngld
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My question to you is this, what in the hell is spoiled about wanting to compete for championships? What would you have us do, accept 8-4 seasons? Isn't that why we fired the last guy?
My question to you: Why should we listen to fans like you again? Isn't that what led to the firing of the last guy, and put the fate of our program in the hands of Alleva? It's time we stopped listening to the pessimists in our fan base and time we threw our support 100% behind this team and Coach O. Let's give this team a chance to succeed now; we can always make changes after the season, if needed.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:35 am to ibleedprplngld
I think the vast majority of us are unhappy with a lot that's happened from the initial HC hire process to the handling of Canada to the OC hire process to the way recruiting ended. It has been addressed and discussed ad nauseum. Yes there are others that try to paint a more unrealistic, rosy view of the state of the program. Some simply look for positives and some just want to talk football.
I'm sick of both extremes. I want to discuss players and the team, how they will integrate into the system, develop, changes to scheme we might expect and what to expect as the season progresses. I'm not interested in this discussion being done through the prism of one's feelings about the HC. Of course, he's a big factor, but not the only one. It doesn't have to devolve into a commentary on O.
I'm sure the BOS and admin are fully aware of the feelings of a large portion of the base and especially the big donors/boosters. TD does not need to drown out other discussion to express their displeasure. Anyway, if the season implodes you will be no factor in what the admin does. It's the results that will dictate change. Sorry to break it to you, but your opinion on the rant just isn't that important to them.
I'm sick of both extremes. I want to discuss players and the team, how they will integrate into the system, develop, changes to scheme we might expect and what to expect as the season progresses. I'm not interested in this discussion being done through the prism of one's feelings about the HC. Of course, he's a big factor, but not the only one. It doesn't have to devolve into a commentary on O.
I'm sure the BOS and admin are fully aware of the feelings of a large portion of the base and especially the big donors/boosters. TD does not need to drown out other discussion to express their displeasure. Anyway, if the season implodes you will be no factor in what the admin does. It's the results that will dictate change. Sorry to break it to you, but your opinion on the rant just isn't that important to them.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:53 am to ibleedprplngld
You tell em "coach". Now that you've given us this fountain burst of wisdom from on high
get your whiny arse back to the basement and play madden. Thats the only kind of football you and the rest of the clowns like you know anything about.
get your whiny arse back to the basement and play madden. Thats the only kind of football you and the rest of the clowns like you know anything about.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:54 am to ibleedprplngld
If you are not accepting mediocrity. What steps have you taken to not be accepting?
In all these life lessons you are teaching, what have you done specifically to change the mediocre? There must be quite a few things, given you preach this to everyone as you say.
What level of greatness have you achieved? Because if you have achieved greatness you should have the financial, social, and political clout to illicit change. Please let us know
I know whining in a message board isn’t the lesson, or is it?
Im all for whining on a message board. But I also know that 95% of humans are spectacularly average.
I get a kick out of average folks talking about greatness when they haven’t achieved anything great.
In all these life lessons you are teaching, what have you done specifically to change the mediocre? There must be quite a few things, given you preach this to everyone as you say.
What level of greatness have you achieved? Because if you have achieved greatness you should have the financial, social, and political clout to illicit change. Please let us know
I know whining in a message board isn’t the lesson, or is it?
Im all for whining on a message board. But I also know that 95% of humans are spectacularly average.
I get a kick out of average folks talking about greatness when they haven’t achieved anything great.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:55 am to ibleedprplngld
LMFAO. I and some of my fellow alumni just bumped ours up by 5k each.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 11:02 am
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:59 am to ibleedprplngld
The LSU football program began the drive toward mediocrity and irrelevance the night of the 2012 BCSCG. Coach O is a symptom, not the cause, of the problem.
I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like the Tigers will have to look forward to a steady diet of Music City, Belk and *gasp* Independence Bowls for a long, long time.
I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like the Tigers will have to look forward to a steady diet of Music City, Belk and *gasp* Independence Bowls for a long, long time.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:04 am to tarzana
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I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like the Tigers will have to look forward to a steady diet of Music City, Belk and *gasp* Independence Bowls for a long, long time.
I live in Shreveport and hope I never have to see LSU in the Independence Bowl unless it's some camp/exhibition/scrimmage event.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:08 am to ibleedprplngld
quote:correct. Past history is usually the best indicator of the future. And not a single other college program was chasing (or even interviewing) O for a head coaching position.
So let me get this straight, a coach who has been around for the better part of 30 years and failed at his only full time HC position and hadn't been offered another since and we don't know what he's capable of?
History is very telling about the future.
And since he's been here, O has hired and fired an OC, lazily promoted from within for his second OC, and had a disappointing recruiting class in 2018, compared with the past 5 years (ranked 6,2,8,5,8) and is the second worst in a decade.
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