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re: If we finish 4-2 can we make the NCAA tourney?

Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:57 pm to
3 more wins should be sufficient for the NIT
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:01 pm to
The fact that we are even talking about postseason confirms that Will motherfrickin Wade is gonna be our savior and lord of the PMAC
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:25 pm to
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Ken Pom has us at 61 as well. 4-2 absolutely gets us in

Lol

A 4-2 finish would put our RPI in the low 70s. That would be the lowest RPI to ever make the field in the history of the NCAA Tournament

Some of you honestly have no idea what you are talking about.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 8:29 pm
Posted by teeMike
In my mind, I'm already there.
Member since Feb 2007
7574 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:32 pm to
LSU will have to win the SEC Tournament to make the NCAA Tourney. The NIT is a more realistic goal. Getting a home game would be icing.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:46 pm to
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9 SEC teams will make the NCAA tourney; we’re in 10th place now

That's not how it works. The standings don't matter.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14544 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:11 pm to
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A 4-2 finish would put our RPI in the low 70s.


I'm not trying to be contrary BB03 as I honestly don't know...how do you know we finish in the low 70's RPI at best if we go 4-2? Is there some sort of template or formula you are using? Is this absolute? Does what other teams do in that time make no difference? If what you say is absolutewhat is the range of ranking we can achieve depending on who we win or lose to if we go 4-2? What happens if we win two games in the tourney? Certainly who we beat could move those numbers up more depending on who that is?
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10226 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:18 pm to
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That's not how it works. The standings don't matter.


I get that, but if we’re 9-9 and so are A&M and Ark, wouldn’t our 4-0 record against them help? I know non-conf games have an impact too, but how much?
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:20 pm to
I've said before that we WANT to finish 8th or 9th in the SEC, because we want a shot at Auburn in the SEC Tournament.

If we go 10-8 in conference, and then win two games in the SEC Tournament, including a win against RPI top 5 Auburn, then we're in a great position to make the field.

Yes, our ending RPI would depend on who we win and lose to. Losing on the road to Alabama wouldn't hurt us very much. And yes, there are RPI calculators online that you can use to project RPI based on W/L results. RPIs won't change too, too much at this point in the season, though, simply because the vast majority of games have already been played.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:23 pm to
No chance at 9-9
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14544 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:37 pm to
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RPIs won't change too, too much at this point in the season, though, simply because the vast majority of games have already been played.


So let's say we finish 4-2 with the best case scenario of that record for us occurring and teams we've beaten like A$M, Arky, Houston and Michigan all finish strong, stronger than projected. So going into the SEC tournament and given those factors, is low 70's still the absolute best we can do going into SEC Tournament play in the formula you are putting your data in?
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:40 pm to
Can you link to one of these calculators? I can't get one to show up on Google and need something to do to kill some time
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:22 pm to

Reasons to get in.
6 wins vs top 50.

Reasons not to. So many bad losses.


They will be better off in nit.
Win 2 home games.

Would you rather win the outback bowl vs big 10 3rd place. or lose the opening round playoff to b12 champ?

This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 10:23 pm
Posted by Andy Bernard
Cornell University
Member since Apr 2016
1744 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:24 pm to
any postseason is good this year....
Posted by tigers1956
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
4795 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:29 pm to
I agree...im just glad that it's not last year....the team gave up on coach jones
Too bad he had some great years at LSU as a player but overall not coaching
Posted by ParrishGore
Walker, La.
Member since Aug 2013
939 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:12 am to
Every year is different in terms of who gets in and who doesn't. There's really not a set standard outside of winning your conference tournament. I mean, realistically, those are the only teams that get an automatic bid. I mean, yea, certain major conference's will put several teams in based on their regular season record and conference standings, but unless you win your conference tournament, by design nothing is absolute. Problem for teams like LSU that are on this proverbial bubble is there are only so many teams that will get in and what goes on in these tournaments and who wins them will have an impact on which bubble teams get in. when a 3 win team goes on a tear and win's their conference tournament then the committee must chose between the 27 and 4 regular season champion and the 19 and 11 team that won a game or two in their conference tournament. This is just a brood example, but the way this stuff goes. The only way to be sure to get into the NCAA, win the conference. But, LSU does have a lot of victories against teams in the rpi top 50, and that will say something at selection time if they finish strong and win a couple in the sec tourney. They def are not out of it at this point.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24511 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:29 am to
No way unless we win the SEC Tourney.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43463 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:42 am to
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There is literally a 1% chance we make the tourney.




LINK

This has us with a 12% chance of making the tournament. So it isn't "literally" a 1% chance.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 7:43 am
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43463 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:43 am to
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Would you rather win the outback bowl vs big 10 3rd place. or lose the opening round playoff to b12 champ?


Lose the opening round playoff to b12 champ every single day.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21136 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:51 am to
I don’t understand the people that say they would rather make the nit, the prestige of making the ncaa tourney in so much greater. It’s something to put on the resume and flaunt, ww made the big dance in his first year with a depleted roster. That would be huge. Nobody will care if we win 2 games in the nit.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43463 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:59 am to
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I don’t understand the people that say they would rather make the nit, the prestige of making the ncaa tourney in so much greater. It’s something to put on the resume and flaunt, ww made the big dance in his first year with a depleted roster. That would be huge. Nobody will care if we win 2 games in the nit.


People do not watch the NIT. It is glorified practices, which are great if the alternative is having your season be done, but it's nothing compared to the NCAAT.

You can say LSU would lose 1st round in the NCAAT but I think it would be far from a guarantee. LSU has played some pretty good teams and beat them. If we make 3's we can beat nearly anyone given we can grab a rebound or two.

And honestly who knows if we would win any games in the NIT either? There's really good teams in that tournament too.
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