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Thoughts On Communism

Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:12 am
Posted by XavierSlayer
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:12 am
Can a nation be free if it oppresses other nations? It cannot. -Vladimir Lenin

Many verbally express that Communism looks good on paper, but never works out when put into action. I was wondering if others could give better insights into why communism would not work well in the authentic world.I verbally express that it would not work in the authentic world because it takes away motivation to work. Why work when the regime will provide for you? when the society becomes slothful who will do the work? that is my input and thank you for all of yours.
Posted by lsudave1
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:13 am to
What the hell are you talking about? And go Xavier.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:30 am to
It’s the stuff of books, not message boards. So I will just say that any philosophy that is in opposition to human nature ( self interest for starters) can not by definition succeed. That is, it is doomed to fail from the start. When people say “ it looks good on paper “ what they are really saying is “ wouldn’t it be pleasant and good if that were the nature of man”.

Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
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64730 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:33 am to
Better dead than Red.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Thoughts On Communism



Feminists, and women in general, would hate it if Marx's real (pure) communism ever took ahold somewhere.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:36 am to
Because the amount of power you would have to surrender to a centralized authority in order to ensure equality of outcome would invariably result in an authoritarian system.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:36 am to
To each according to their needs attracts the young and innocent, the ignorant, and the lazy. This is the reason it is tried over and over again.

From each according to his ability never happens. That’s why communism fails every time it’s tried.

Socialist of the world unit, and just go away!
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Can a nation be free if it oppresses other nations? It cannot. -Vladimir Lenin


Well, apparently Stalin and other communist goons completely disagreed with this statement.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:41 am
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:41 am to
quote:

I was wondering if others could give better insights into why communism would not work well in the authentic world.


Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:42 am to
quote:

not work in the authentic world because it takes away motivation to work.


There ya go.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19560 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Can a nation be free if it oppresses other nations? It cannot.


This is a bunch of garbage. I'm not saying our country should oppress others, but there are plenty of instances of might makes right in history, and the oppressors and their free citizenry did very well for a very long time.

Edit: This is more accurate: "If you want freedom for your nation, and morality doesn't matter to you, continually oppress other nations and steal their resources."
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:49 am
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Communism looks good on paper, but never works out when put into action
absolute nonsense

Communism neither works good when put it to action nor does it look good on paper

It is an awful ideology all the way around
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:48 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:44 am to
Minorities too. The freak show open communists running around college campuses would be stuck in factories and coal mines. Just like the Soviets, the politburo would be full of white males with vacation homes on the ocean while the masses toil in poverty
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6567 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:45 am to
It works if done correctly, but no country has been able to do it correctly yet.

:sarcasm:
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:45 am to
Human nature period
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:45 am to
Only "works" when implemented and sustained by force. Human nature is to look out for #1, that's why capitalism has made mankind more prosperous than at anytime in history.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Many verbally express that Communism looks good on paper, but never works out when put into action. I was wondering if others could give better insights into why communism would not work well in the authentic world.I verbally express that it would not work in the authentic world because it takes away motivation to work. Why work when the regime will provide for you? when the society becomes slothful who will do the work? that is my input and thank you for all of yours.



When people fail to go to work... somebody has to step up. It begins pissing people off... and it will collapse.

Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Many verbally express that Communism looks good on paper, but never works out when put into action. I was wondering if others could give better insights into why communism would not work well in the authentic world.

I assume this is a joke?
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60615 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:54 am to
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equality of outcome
Is the worst ideal to ever hit the political realm. It is in distinct contrast to what it means to be human

It supresses human individualism, responsibilty, and cultivation

Humans were not meant to be drones of the state or society. We were endowed with complexities and reason over all animals for a purpose beyond being an intelligent ant farm

It is the key reason why ideoligies like communism and socialism fail. At their core they rebel against human nature. Capitalism has been the most successful political experiment thus far because it recognizes the significance of the individual

equality of opportunity yes, outcome no
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 10:27 am
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:03 am to
Putin claims that Communism is very similar to Christianity on this short video clip about freedom, justice, brotherhood and equality, so maybe Jesus is partly responsible.

LINK

But, I maintain that both the behavior of USA and Russia leaders, if you want to make a bibical reference, are closer to the Old Testament than the New Testament.

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