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re: Thoughts On Communism

Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:05 am to
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:05 am to
Absolutely, life would be miserable without the possibility of social mobility. It would essentially be life without hope.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56376 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:13 am to
The three basic elements of a modern society are transportation, communication and production of goods and services.

Transportation. You can't go anywhere unless you have permission and without being tracked everywhere you go.

Communication - you can't communicate with someone without permission and without being monitored. By the way, this includes all media and there is no 1A, so you get fed what the government want to you see and you have no freedom of expression. Lest we forget, China still executes dissidents, but suppression of thought is a whole other ball of wax, also ever-present in communist societies.


Production - Innovation is stifled because the government has no competitors. Why have a variety of anything or build a better mouse trap if people have no choice but to accept what government provides. Why make any food enjoyable when all people need to do is keep breathing.

Also, when there is no quality of life mobility among the work force, and in fact, all are taken care of equally whether or not they work, you get the inevitable, signature labor shortages. Historically, this leads to government forced labor, with the worst jobs being issued as punishment - and they'll need to constantly "punish" enough people to get all of the work done.

This is SUPER simplified because frankly, I posted all of this shite back in 2006, but was assured by this board that communism was done. It's over. And I don't feel like crafting all of it again.

I suggest you consult the greatest anti-communist analyst in my personal library, Theodore Dalrymple, the son of a communist who observed, and commented on it all his life.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 10:42 am
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60611 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Putin claims that Communism is very similar to Christianity
Which is nonsense as well

judeo-christian values at their core express the importance of individual responsibility and suffering, rising above that sufffering to be reborn a better human, with the pinnacle of this process being Jesus. Improving and cultivating one's self does not prevent you from being kind and generous to others, in fact, it makes you better at it

You do not even need to be a Christian to acknowledge this process
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 10:23 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:23 am to
The simplest explanation. Communism fails because it runs against human nature.
Posted by FeauxPaw
BRuh
Member since Sep 2015
853 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 11:04 am to
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…give [man] economic prosperity, such that he should have nothing else to do but sleep, eat cakes and busy himself with the continuation of his species, and even then out of sheer ingratitude, sheer spite, man would play you some nasty trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive good sense his fatal fantastic element.

lt is just his fantastic dreams, his vulgar folly that he will desire to retain, simply in order to prove to himself […] that men still are men and not the keys of a piano, which the laws of nature threaten to control so completely that soon one will be able to desire nothing but by the calendar.

And that is not all: even if man really were nothing but a piano-key, even if this were proved to him by natural science and mathematics, even then he would not become reasonable, but would purposely do something perverse out of simple ingratitude, simply to gain his point.


Fyodor Dostoevsky already stated why in the 1800s. As others have said, it is against human nature.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41690 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 11:11 am to
What's the definition of an "authentic world"?
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 11:37 am to
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Many verbally express that Communism looks good on paper, but never works out when put into action. I was wondering if others could give better insights into why communism would not work well in the authentic world.



Common F*CKING sense

And

Human F*CKING nature.


It really is that simple.


But since the main defining characteristic of liberals is the complete lack of common f*cking sense, they'll never f*cking get it.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:44 pm to
A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:52 pm to
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I verbally express that it would not work in the authentic world because it takes away motivation to work.




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