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re: FBI's Wray Opposes GOP Memo Release, Citing Inaccuracies
Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:50 am to tigerinDC09
Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:50 am to tigerinDC09
Here's how this goes. A report comes out that Wray doesn't want to release the memo because it's inaccurate. Later today, in the daily briefing, another reporter will cite this report, along with the WH's previous statements of confidence in Wray, and try to paint the WH in a corner that if the guy they fully trust doesn't think it should be released, then why are they still considering the release. Sanders won't be at liberty to speak on behalf of Wray, add some canned response about vetting the info, and move on.
Media will then report on internal rift between Wray and the WH, citing sources familiar with the situation, of course.
Media will then report on internal rift between Wray and the WH, citing sources familiar with the situation, of course.
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:52 am to tigerinDC09
bloomberg 
Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:56 am to tigerinDC09
quote:
The fallacy in that is that we can't ask the Judge if information in the Dossier factored in his decision to approve the FISA warrant.
Even if warrant didn't factor at all into the approval (your premise), it's absurd to think it's not hugely important that the FBI was engaged in the manipulation of a warrant.
It's funny that the dossier being used to get the FISA approved isn't even in question anymore. That was a huge point of contention just weeks ago. Now, liberals like yourself are trying to argue that it wasn't important.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:56 am to member12
quote:OK.
NavyTiger74 insist that this was unrelated to the IG report or the memo.
It wasn't related to what he ate that morning.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:58 am to tigerinDC09
I heard from unnamed sources that one of the top FBI investigators reviewed and said that the memo was inaccurate. I think his name was McCabe or something like that.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:59 am to tigerinDC09
John Kelly says this morning that he has seen the memo and "it will be released here quickly" that the "whole world can see it." Says the national security lawyers are looking at it now.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:59 am to AUstar
quote:
No there wasn't any such corroborating evidence.
Maybe as presented in Nunes. If only we could see the Democratic memo. Byron York published this yesterday from a HPSCI member:
quote:
The member noted that that Democratic memo contains far more classified information — names and sources — than the GOP paper. "It is much more revealing [of classified information]," he said. "It's going to have to be heavily redacted before it can be released. We wrote our memo with the hope that it would be released to the American people. Their memo will have to be heavily redacted." Two other GOP members familiar with the memo echoed those points.
Washington Examiner
Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:59 am to tigerinDC09
Fail thread #100
Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:59 am to GRTiger
And Wray can not CONFIRM or DENY this report because it could compromise things...
That's why they can do these types of articles.
That's why they can do these types of articles.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 9:59 am to tigerinDC09
Anon source used to try and preemptively undermine the credibility of the memo.
How quaint.
How quaint.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:01 am to tigerinDC09
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according to a person familiar with the matter.
Fake or at least unsubstantiated news.
I mean, they'll say whatever they want and attribute it to anonymous sources.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:10 am to Walkthedawg
Trump's Insubstantial State of the Union
Trump's Speech Exposed the GOP's Lack of Direction
Trump's Speech Exposed the GOP's Lack of Direction
Trump Still Dreams of a 1950s-Era Economy
His tax cuts and pure willpower can't bring back manufacturing jobs.
Trump's Weakness Is a Dangerous Thing
All the headlines from Bloomberg, we know who they are, FAKE NEWS!!
Trump's Speech Exposed the GOP's Lack of Direction
Trump's Speech Exposed the GOP's Lack of Direction
Trump Still Dreams of a 1950s-Era Economy
His tax cuts and pure willpower can't bring back manufacturing jobs.
Trump's Weakness Is a Dangerous Thing
All the headlines from Bloomberg, we know who they are, FAKE NEWS!!
Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:18 am to Walkthedawg
quote:
Trump's Insubstantial State of the Union
Trump's Speech Exposed the GOP's Lack of Direction
Trump's Speech Exposed the GOP's Lack of Direction
Trump Still Dreams of a 1950s-Era Economy
His tax cuts and pure willpower can't bring back manufacturing jobs.
Trump's Weakness Is a Dangerous Thing
All the headlines from Bloomberg, we know who they are, FAKE NEWS!!
I think we are done here.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:25 am to tigerinDC09
quote:
There's no evidence that the media (which is a broad paint brush) has been any more inaccurate on Trump/Russia than any other major stories.
Remember how Woodward and Bernstein made big errors on Watergate reporting? People make errors, reporters are people.
You don't pass your speculations off as 100% verified. That's not an error that's just lazy, sloppy reporting. You also don't air something like the Steele dossier until you've thoroughly vetted the source as well as gotten corroborating evidence.
Remember how Comey was going to testify that Trump pressured him?
Remember the oh-so-explosive Comey memo?
Remember how Deutsche Bank was supposed to have flagged Kushner's account due to "suspicious activity"?
Remember the koi pond incident?
Remember how Trump's account records with Deutsche Bank were supposed to have been subpoenaed?
Remember how this dossier was heavily funded by the DNC and HRC's campaign but how this was not reported nearly as often as the unproven allegations in the dossier?
Remember how HRC's campaign claimed no knowledge of the dossier at first then it was found they funded a large part of it and how this was not reported nearly as much nor as often as the unproven allegations in the dossier?
Remember how HRC's campaign lied on their campaign finance reports by never reporting these expenditures but that was not reported nearly as often as the allegations in the dossier?
Remember how the only things that have ever been corroborated in the dossier are that Carter Page met with Russian bankers (not a crime) and that Putin does not like Hillary but how that has yet to be reported even nearly as closely as the unproven allegations?
That many "errors" aren't "mistakes", they're a pattern of behavior.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:32 am to Bard
quote:
You don't pass your speculations off as 100% verified. That's not an error that's just lazy, sloppy reporting. You also don't air something like the Steele dossier until you've thoroughly vetted the source as well as gotten corroborating evidence. Remember how Comey was going to testify that Trump pressured him? Remember the oh-so-explosive Comey memo? Remember how Deutsche Bank was supposed to have flagged Kushner's account due to "suspicious activity"? Remember the koi pond incident? Remember how Trump's account records with Deutsche Bank were supposed to have been subpoenaed? Remember how this dossier was heavily funded by the DNC and HRC's campaign but how this was not reported nearly as often as the unproven allegations in the dossier? Remember how HRC's campaign claimed no knowledge of the dossier at first then it was found they funded a large part of it and how this was not reported nearly as much nor as often as the unproven allegations in the dossier? Remember how HRC's campaign lied on their campaign finance reports by never reporting these expenditures but that was not reported nearly as often as the allegations in the dossier? Remember how the only things that have ever been corroborated in the dossier are that Carter Page met with Russian bankers (not a crime) and that Putin does not like Hillary but how that has yet to be reported even nearly as closely as the unproven allegations? That many "errors" aren't "mistakes", they're a pattern of behavior.
Hot damn, you just Dick slapped and gutted him in one fell swoop!
Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:55 am to tigerinDC09
quote:
according to a person familiar with the matter.
Sauces
Posted on 1/31/18 at 11:04 am to tigerinDC09
Wrong. I’ll bet the article meant to say Rod Rosenstein doesn’t want it released. He and Wray went to Ryan’s Office yesterday- and Rosenstein begged for it not to be released. Of course, that would be because Rosenstein is NAMED in the memo for signing off on inaccurate fisa warrant requests.
Wray, along with 2 other top FBI officials all went and read the memo and none of those 3 saw any inaccuracies.
This is just Rod Rosenstein making one last ditch effort to save his job. Wouldn’t be surprised if he told reporters it was Wray that was concerned.
Wray, along with 2 other top FBI officials all went and read the memo and none of those 3 saw any inaccuracies.
This is just Rod Rosenstein making one last ditch effort to save his job. Wouldn’t be surprised if he told reporters it was Wray that was concerned.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 11:07 am to ABearsFanNMS
quote:
Hot damn, you just Dick slapped and gutted him in one fell swoop!
Thanks
In all honesty though what I was responding to amounted to a slow-pitch softball. Many of the other posters here could have done at least as well (if not better) had they been the ones to respond.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 11:08 am to The Spleen
Wray hasn’t seen the IG report. It’s not complete.
Wray saw the House Intel memo on Sunday- that memo is based on facts surrounding the unlawful unmasking of Trump campaign members. McCabe was named in the memo (Wray also got to see the supporting classified docs in the House SCIF)- this was why McCabe was ousted Monday morning.
Wray saw the House Intel memo on Sunday- that memo is based on facts surrounding the unlawful unmasking of Trump campaign members. McCabe was named in the memo (Wray also got to see the supporting classified docs in the House SCIF)- this was why McCabe was ousted Monday morning.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 11:49 am to CheniereTiger108
Everyone calling Bloomberg fake news, should feel silly now:
Quote from the FBI:
"... the FBI was provided a limited opp. to review this memo the day before the committee voted to release it. As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy."
Quote from the FBI:
"... the FBI was provided a limited opp. to review this memo the day before the committee voted to release it. As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy."
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