re: Can someone please justify why Orgeron kicked the FG against ND?

There's really nothing anyone can say to make that the right decision. You have a star RB playing in his last game and you're a foot away. If you get stuffed, they have to try and get the ball out of their own end zone abs drive the length of the field. Our kickers had been horrible. O was too afraid to fail in an exhibition game. Even still I'm not even convinced that angled kick was a higher percentage play than handing it to Guice. I can't imagine how much O's butt will pucker if we're ever in a truly meaningful game with him at the helm

How do you know what "predictive analysis or big data" he did or didn't have available or has or hasn't studied?

It's easy to second-guess and to throw around big-sounding terms, but s little harder to prove it. Since you're so confident in the outcome, why don't you present YOUR "predictive analysis" to prove your point based on a "large (enough) sample size?"

It was a terrible call. Even not converting down there and leaving the Irish backed up inside the 1 would have been preferable.

WRONG!!! In quarters 1, 2 & 3 you go for the TD. In the 4th quarter (especially under 2 mins) you take whatever lead you can get!

It is amusing that we are discussing kicking a FG vs going for a TD on 4th and an inch when the elephant in the room should be: "How does the D allow ND's back up QB to go 73 yards in 3 plays and 35 seconds for the TD?"

quote:

---

WRONG!!! In quarters 1, 2 & 3 you go for the TD. In the 4th quarter (especially under 2 mins) you take whatever lead you can!

---

Except with a made FG you give your opponent a starting field position of the 25 yard. You miss the TD, opponent starts off inside their one. Average points scored from that distance is less than 2. That means the majority of teams don't even get to kick a FG. The number of teams that score from their own 25 is considerably higher.

By kicking you increase your odds of winning by a smaller margin than if you scored the TD. The odds of giving up the score if you convert on either is the same. The odds of the opponent scoring are higher if you miss the FG than they are than if you miss the TD. The TD was the correct decision.

You don't apply a single principle to every single situation. Game situation, down and distance does matter. If they were 3 yards out you kick the FG. They were 3 inches out. Different story.

For the record, I would have gone for it. If for nothing else, the stakes of the game weren't high. That said, I can understand why he kicked the FG.

It's 4th down in a TIE ball game. Maybe Guice (or whoever) gets a TD. But that's not a guarantee (see the Florida game). Had he gone for it and did not convert people would be LOSING THEIR shite on here complaining that in a TIE ball game you take the FG and the lead. Particularly if ND came down and got a FG to beat you.

With the FG, you ensured that a FG didn't beat you. If you told LSU fans before the game that ND would have to go 80 yards in 2:00 with only one timeout vs. Aranda's defense most would have taken that scenario.

Hindsight is 20/20. At the time, Ed took the lead while eliminating the chance for a FG to beat him. He trusted his D to make one final stop. No one would have thought the kid from ND would make a terrific catch and the LSU DB's would turn into the Keystone Cops.

quote:

---

He can't coach like that if he wants to put teams away. Aggressive play calling is the only way we came back to beat Auburn, which he was lucky to win.

---

I agree. The punt return for a TD was a great call!

Easy. You go for the lead 10/10 times. Your defense has stopped them pretty much all game. You go for it and don't convert, now you gave them the momentum AND only needing a Fieldgoal to win the game. Easy decision IMO..