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re: How does society benefit from releasing feral cats back into the wild?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:37 pm to ZappBrannigan
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:37 pm to ZappBrannigan
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And less by causing other cats and kittens to cut off from resources by keeping more(but non breeding) cats in competition.
I get what you are saying, but how is starving out other cats more humane than killing them quickly? Just being rhetorical
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 6:39 pm to SabiDojo
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It's helpful if they aren't foreign invaders.
Well, they aren't native to North America, soooo...
Posted on 1/25/18 at 6:42 pm to MontyFranklyn
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They have no predator of their own to keep them in check
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by Fe_Mike
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Why do you think coyotes are becoming more urban problems? It's because near big cities, the rural areas they live in are becoming more residential. So in order to survive, they have to stray into urban populations and communities, where they will inevitably die. No, that coyote didn't get run over by a bulldozer, but had that bulldozer never shown up, it would have stayed in the forest where it belongs.
Yeah, that's not accurate at all. Coyotes have, for centuries, been drawn to urban environments. All the way back to the Aztecs in fact. Obviously ancient Aztec society was not as urban as LA or NYC, but they were drawn to the human settlements.
Coyotes thrive in just about every habitat in North America.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 6:57 pm to Quinn225
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The neutered cats keep the others (intact)out of their territory. And they eventually die in 6-10 years. Cats multiply like crazy.
This.
Kill them and another one shows up to replace it. Spay/neuter and vaccinate and they'll control their territory, kill vermin, and won't spread disease.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 7:17 pm to Bestbank Tiger
So once they die of natural causes then what happens? Does the area stay cat free forever? Or does a replacement cat then show up?
Is there a limitless supply of cats? I assume if I kill every feral cat in my town there is another huge population up the road that will immediately move in.
Is there a limitless supply of cats? I assume if I kill every feral cat in my town there is another huge population up the road that will immediately move in.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 7:22 pm to Scruffy
They should kill them and serve them at soup kitchens. Two problems, one solution.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 7:31 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
22 subsonics
17 mach 2
Havaheart traps
Meaningful population control
17 mach 2
Havaheart traps
Meaningful population control
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 7:31 pm to weagle99
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So once they die of natural causes then what happens? Does the area stay cat free forever? Or does a replacement cat then show up?
Eventually a replacement shows up - either the offspring of a pet who got dumped, or the offspring of a feral they didn't catch soon enough.
A feral has a much shorter life expectancy than a pet. This is just the most effective way of managing the population.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 7:54 pm to weagle99
I have some around the farm in areas where I have a high rat population. They seem to do a good job.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 8:28 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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They should kill them and serve them at soup kitchens. Two problems, one solution.
Mmmmm
Kitty foo young, Sweet and sour Kitty, General Tso's kitty, Pepper Kitty, Broccoli and Kitty, Kitty and dumplings, kitty stroganoff. Need I say more?
ok one more.
Kitty, the new white meat.
Let me say one thing in their favor. They love to eliminate a snake, chipmonk, too. Fuzzy killers.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:16 pm to weagle99
They keep out other cats and form a stable population. It is more effective than trying to kill them all.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:24 pm to SabiDojo
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I know it sounds silly, but cats are incredibly formidable predators.
Well yeah....cats are miniature tigers. And a tiger is a bad mofo.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:31 pm to weagle99
Never forget when my fam came by from Denmark and an outdoor pet cat rolls by. Danish lady jumped out her chair like she saw a rat. They’re treated like rodents out there.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:21 pm to weagle99
My great uncle Milford used to talk w fondness about "Cat Day" their family would have once a year on their farm in Sabine Parish.
"Cat Day" was the day where, during the daylight hours, the boys in the family could use their rifles to shoot any of the feral cats they saw.
Oh for the good old days...
"Cat Day" was the day where, during the daylight hours, the boys in the family could use their rifles to shoot any of the feral cats they saw.
Oh for the good old days...
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:03 am to nola000
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I dont think I could pop a dog.
feral dogs do a ton of damage. they are also pretty dangerous. I had 4 of them run up on me and wouldn't back down when I was hunting. I thought i was a goner. I popped the closest one (about 5 yards, i was hollering at em and such and they kept slinking in snarling) and luckily the others scattered. A lot of kids and old people hunt with us so we don't want them around. These aren't people's pets...they are skinny, malnourished, and were likely dropped off as puppies and have been wild their entire life. They don't fear humans the way coyotes do.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:32 am to celltech1981
For sure. Have a small problem on my place with them. They are shot on sight.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:54 am to weagle99
Rats and mice. Spayed a neutered they don't reproduce.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:03 am to weagle99
We we moved into our new neighborhood there were feral cats living in the woods behind us. Our neighborhood took away a significant portion of the space they occupied before we ever thought of building a house. We did the trap/spay-neuter/ release program and adopted out kittens when we could. 8 years later, none were left.
We did get rid of the cats. We just did it slowly.
We did get rid of the cats. We just did it slowly.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:24 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:I forgot about those wylie Coyotes
Yeah, that's not accurate at all. Coyotes have, for centuries, been drawn to urban environments. All the way back to the Aztecs in fact. Obviously ancient Aztec society was not as urban as LA or NYC, but they were drawn to the human settlements.
Coyotes thrive in just about every habitat in North America.
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