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re: Because people are stupid, our Governor feels coaching salaries should be capped

Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158844 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:07 pm to
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Who do you think pays for these ridiculous salaries dumbfrick?

Luckily for you, you're so butthurt about BEBE that you wont have to worry about contributing any money.
every time I think you cannot get any dumber, you prove me wrong

Goddamn you are one stupid son of a bitch
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23803 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:07 pm to
Coaching salaries are out of control, particularly for assistants. But, you cannot cap them unless you do it nationwide.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:08 pm to
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I voted for him because frick bible thumping Louisiana republicans




Yes, frick bible thumping, HYPOCRITICAL, Louisiana Republicans.
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
Member since Feb 2015
5582 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:09 pm to
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I’m not as concerned as I would be if those were tax dollars being spent,


Not tax dollars...then not his or any politicians business or concern.

JBE needs to stop worrying about CFB coaches salaries and worry a whole lot more about the state budget...oh yeah, he is ... let's cut TOPS by 80%.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29351 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:10 pm to
Diarrhea of the mouth is something this governor will be remembered for.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:12 pm to
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worrying about how the state is spending our tax dollars


And all those annual hundreds of millions of dollars the legislature has doled out to corporations in the form of tax credits/subsidies. Just a couple of years ago, corporations in Louisiana paid a net zero in state income taxes due to all the tax credits/subsidies they get.
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
3481 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:13 pm to
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There's a political board for you to vent your anger at the governor, just FYI.



Too much butthurt in him.
He's an equal board opportunity venter.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:18 pm to
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oh yeah, he is ... let's cut TOPS by 80%.


If affluent people (maybe you're one of them) hadn't cried and whined about actually have to pay their fair share of taxes, then the sensible Stelly tax structure wouldn't have been cut by Jindal and the Republican-led legislature, thus blowing a huge hole in the state budget, then the state wouldn't be in this fricking budget mess. And FYI, Jindal DRASTICALLY cut the state budget for higher education during his eight incompetent years in office because he didn't want to ask his rich buddies to pay a little more in taxes, and was already running for President. JBE and Jay Dardenne are simply having to deal with moronic Jindal's budget mess that he left for the adults to clean up.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
10316 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:21 pm to
At a state funded college it should be capped, as long as the rules are uniform.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:26 pm to
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“And what about those faculty members at LSU and elsewhere who haven’t had a raise of any size in many, many years and they’re seeing what’s happening in athletics?”


Maybe they should've been coaches?

You pay what the market demands. The market doesn't demand paying top engineering professors $5 million a year.

Their salaries come from two different pools, as the Governor points out. So those teachers shouldn't be too upset.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28752 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:26 pm to
While both inextricably tied together, you are dealing with two separate entities. LSU athletics is a self funded, multi-million dollar entertainment business. LSU academics is a partially (largely) taxpayer funded entity providing a public service .

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“I am concerned. I’m not as concerned as I would be if those were tax dollars being spent,” Edwards said. “I do think that there has to be some look nationally at some sort of salary caps for the organizations. This is an arms race, and it’s gotten out of control. Some of the salaries and buyouts are obscene and they can create all sorts of problems. “Everybody at this table knows that those are not taxpayer dollars but the general public doesn’t necessarily know that,”


I can understand Edwards' sentiments as to universities as a whole. But at least he willing to admit his argument as to LSU is far less compelling in light of the fact that the athletic dept doesn't rely on taxpayer dollars. LSU is very fortunate in that regard and one of the few schools nationwide that applies to. However, if I'm a governor in another state whose universities athletic departments do rely significantly on taxpayer dollars I would be a little concerned with the arms race in athletics sucking away non-private money from public schools.

In essence he's saying, as far as LSU is concerned, perception is a lot worse than reality. To that, I respond, who cares if the general public doesn't realize LSU athletics is fully self funded? The fact of the matter is that it is and LSU (AD) shouldn't make stupid BUSINESS decisions based upon mistaken public perception.

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“And what about those faculty members at LSU and elsewhere who haven’t had a raise of any size in many, many years and they’re seeing what’s happening in athletics?”


When they can sell 90K tickets at $100 a piece along with entering into lucrative TV contracts that allow consumers to watch them teach or give a test then they can make as much as football coaches. Until then, their market value is largely fixed and at LSU they have no basis to bitch about coaches' salaries since the money that funds those salaries is separate from the money that funds the salaries of professors.

Which all circles back to the ineptitude of F.King and Alleva. LSU (AD) doesn't have a social justice reason to be cheap other than worry about perception of an untrue narrative (i.e. the school/professors are broke, while the athletic coaches are making millions). So making business decisions based upon that line of thinking is absurd. The current administration refuses to take advantage of the advantage LSU's situation provides them---a fully self funded athletic dept that doesn't harm the school financially.

The only people who have an actual gripe in the whole thing are the football, mens basketball and baseball players since it is their efforts that are grossly undercompensated. Particularly compared to the ever increasing salaries of coaches. Jimbo Fisher is going to make $7.5 million dollars next season. His star players are going to "earn" far less than that despite the fact that Fisher is useless without the players efforts on the field
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16934 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:30 pm to
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Yes, frick bible thumping, HYPOCRITICAL, Louisiana Republicans.


Hey, you know, there's a Political Board for you to vent your leftist frustrations with Republicans.

Hypocrisy herp derp!
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:34 pm to
Dude needs to STFU
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158844 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:36 pm to
you're not getting it...but that's okay, you're quite stupid and no one expects you to.

are you so far up your own arse that you think this thread is a dig at O?
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:40 pm to
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Typical Socialist. Right out of Karl Marx's playbook.


What. I don't remember Marx writing extensively on football coach's salaries.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43316 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:41 pm to
I like the idea of coaches' salaries being capped (an NCAA rule, not LSU); I don't like his reasoning.


I would be on board for capping coach salaries because the money could be better spent in keeping even better facilities and equipment, better gameday experiences for the fans, and potentially giving players some a living expenses stipend. Some part of it could go back to the school, but the athletics already gives a shite ton of money back to the school.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:47 pm to
I agree that it is an absurd amount of money for someone who's job is to tell some kids where to run to with a ball.

But, it's not the States money so he needs to sit down and shut the frick up as the government has no right to tell individuals how to spend their own money.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:54 pm to
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What don't the dems get about supply and demand?



That's an absurd statement and actually makes the democrats out to be the smart one.

In a perfect world, we as a society should value someone's academic prowess far more than we should their athletic. Let's face it, pro sports players aren't fricking curing cancer or helping solve the grand unified theory. They are doing nothing to advance the human species.

Unfortunately we prefer our school to win a championship in football over a Nobel prize.


However, we are talking about private money so realistically, the government should stay out of trying to tell people what they can and can not spend their money on (this includes substances that are currently illegal). People should be able to piss away their money if they want.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38431 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:01 pm to
This guy is one of the main reasons we have a D Line coach as a Head Coach.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127276 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:02 pm to
I assume the law he wants passed by the Louisiana legislature to cap college coaches' salaries will include coaches in Alabama and Texas, too.
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