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re: Snow on the ground in all 50 states, climate change is being downgraded
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:15 am to Salmon
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:15 am to Salmon
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This is how science generally works. You improve your findings with better data and improved methods.
And the use of apocalyptic language to cause mass hysteria in order to obtain funding/political power? Is that part of the process too?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:15 am to DarthRebel
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You have exposed who you worship over the last year.
Who is that?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:17 am to DarthRebel
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always find it funny how people look at the last 100 years to predict the climate was for the last 2 billion years
As do I. I think the predictions are best described as rough estimates.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:17 am to SabiDojo
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And the use of apocalyptic language to cause mass hysteria in order to obtain funding/political power? Is that part of the process too?
No.
I will always call out the doomsday scenarios, especially among scientists.
Politicians are going to fear monger. It is what they do.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:18 am to Salmon
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Salmon
Where do most research scientists get their funding?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:19 am to slackster
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slackster
So you cherry pick a time frame that is .000005% the age of the Earth.
Do you see how dumb that is.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:20 am to slackster
quote:Thermometers being located at airports with ever increasing concrete around them that gets hotter than the dirt landing strips they started as.
What do you think the trend is?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:21 am to DarthRebel
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You also cannot deny, science is wrong more than right.
and yet planes are not falling out of the sky, the lights are on in my office, the internet still works, and my truck didn't blow up on my way into work this morning...all because of science.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 8:23 am
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:22 am to Salmon
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Nobody does this
Yes they do. They used the limited knowledge they have of the world today to plug in holes and guess the data points of the past.
Do you even hockey puck bro?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:23 am to Bullfrog
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Thermometers being located at airports with ever increasing concrete around them that gets hotter than the dirt landing strips they started as.
you might have a point if it were only land surface temperatures
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:25 am to colorchangintiger
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and yet planes are not falling out of the sky, the lights are on in my office, the internet still works, and my truck didn't blow up on my way into work this morning...all because of science.
As an inventor, Edison made 1,000 unsuccessful attempts at inventing the light bulb.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:25 am to DarthRebel
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So you cherry pick a time frame that is .000005% the age of the Earth.
Do you see how dumb that is.
, you said we should look at what is actually happening, do I showed you. Again, I think making king term predictions off of this is a folly, but this is the data. Do with it what you will.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:27 am to Salmon
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you might have a point if it were only land surface temperatures
Tell us more about the air and sea temperatures they were recording 1000 years ago?
The Thermometer was invented in 1714 right???
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:27 am to slackster
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I always find it comical how people look at regional weather as proof for or against global warming.
Half a continent is considered regional?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:28 am to Salmon
So you know where the official thermometers have been placed all that time? Not in the water. Municipal structures then generally airports.
We are in a global cooling cycle now that may last 10-12 years. Bundle up.
We are in a global cooling cycle now that may last 10-12 years. Bundle up.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:30 am to TigerGman
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Half a continent is considered regional?
Yes
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:30 am to DarthRebel
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downgraded
You mis-spelled “redefined”.
The left has too much on the table to fold and walk away. They have to continue to bluff.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:38 am to slackster
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What do you think the trend is?
Likely that the annual average temperatures will likely go below the overall average again at some point assuming the overall average beginning in 1850 is actually representative of future data.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:41 am to DarthRebel
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Tell us more about the air and sea temperatures they were recording 1000 years ago?
Marine geologist here that studies/works with ocean circulation, sediment sinks/sources, inlet dynamics, shoreline geomorphology, and paleoclimatology.
A large portion of my masters thesis revolved around the transgressing/regressing shorelines during the Pleistocene's major glacial maximums, interglacials, and glacial minimums.
It can be done independent of the thermometer being "invented in 1714"
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:47 am to Salmon
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you might have a point if it were only land surface temperatures
Do we have thermometers spaced evenly around the globe, say at every degree of longitude and latitude intersection? The answer is no we don’t. We have a the vast amount of thermometers in population centers. We take those skewed distributions and interpolate what the average global temperature change is. After all this we have come to the conclusion that the average temperature has risen .8 degrees over the course of a century. Then we take that and we say that that over the next century temperature will increase at least 4 times as much. Yet, we couldn’t predict we would have a cold winter in Louisiana in October. How can anyone believe any predictions about the climate at this point? We have NO proof that anyone can model weather or climate accurately a month out much less a century out.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 8:49 am
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