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re: Black women are the most educated group

Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:08 pm to
Posted by creppeln
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:08 pm to
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Some of the highest per pupil expenditures are in some of the worst majority AA school districts.


I'm sorry is expenditure supposed to imply adequacy? Just because it's high, it can't possibly mean that it's still not enough? I mean I could pay $1000 on textbooks, but if I need $1500 I guess I'm not getting that textbook huh.
And money is one thing, but it's about what the money ends up being used for and the way the schools are run. You ever heard about this notion "quality over quantity"
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9257 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:10 pm to
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So basically it's a statistic that means nothing, right? She has very little or no ability to earn despite the fact that she's 'educated about genders.


Yes because every black woman takes gender studies. Why are you so scared the claim might be true?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:10 pm to
Well you didn't ask a straight question. You asked if Lebron is intelligent. For those of us that follow the NBA, he prob has the highest basketball IQ in the league.

Are you asking me if he'd do well on the Science Reasoning section of the ACT?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:11 pm to
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I'm sorry is expenditure supposed to imply adequacy?
My post was in response to someone saying we should better fund.

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Just because it's high, it can't possibly mean that it's still not enough? I mean I could pay $1000 on textbooks, but if I need $1500 I guess I'm not getting that textbook huh.
Why would it be inadequate if I spent X per pupil in a black school but adequate if I spent 80% of X in a white school?

That's a strange retort on your part. In fact, it's pretty much flagrantly insulting to blacks.
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:12 pm to
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For those of us that follow the NBA, he prob has the highest basketball IQ in the league.


How could you possibly think you are qualified to make that statement?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:13 pm to
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Well you didn't ask a straight question. You asked if Lebron is intelligent. For those of us that follow the NBA, he prob has the highest basketball IQ in the league.
Well this is just silly.

Being the best at a sport doesn't mean you're the most knowledgeable in the sport. If it did, then Bill Belicheck would be going into the Hall of Fame as a player too!!!

There are probably 50 guys in the NBA with higher basketball IQs than Lebron. They just weren't born with Lebron's physical gifts to go with it!
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
2444 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:16 pm to
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Why would it be inadequate if I spent X per pupil in a black school but adequate if I spent 80% of X in a white school?



One is dilapidated and neglected, the other isn’t. One has more hungry kids that qualify for free lunch than the other. One is a lot more likely to need new books and probably renovations/technology upgrades than the other
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:19 pm to
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One is dilapidated and neglected, the other isn’t.
Physical condition of the school has basically zero relevance.

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One has more hungry kids that qualify for free lunch than the other.
Not included in Per Pupil calculations.

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One is a lot more likely to need new books and probably renovations/technology upgrades than the other
Now you're just pullin shite out of your arse
Posted by creppeln
Member since Mar 2018
41 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:19 pm to
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Why would it be inadequate if I spent X per pupil in a black school but adequate if I spent 80% of X in a white school? That's a strange retort on your part. In fact, it's pretty much flagrantly insulting to blacks.


Well easy, because if one school is older, needs more repairs, is overcrowded, has different services and is giving out different numbers of services, cost of living, any number of costs really.

Basic finaces man... if your debits > (it means greater than) credit, You just don't have enough regardless of how much you're getting.

It's not much different than why the amount paid for my utility bill might be inadequate than the amount paid for the utility bill at the superdome. Gosh, I hope I didn't insult Drew Brees.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 11:26 pm
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:19 pm to
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There are probably 50 guys in the NBA with higher basketball IQs than Lebron. They just weren't born with Lebron's physical gifts to go with it!

You don't follow basketball and you're just guessing. Coaches who have worked with him have all mentioned his immense knowledge of the game. Lebron's 34 right now and still the best player in the league--you think thats because hes more physically gifted than everybody.

I mean, do you think Drew Brees is still good because of that canon of an arm?
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
2444 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:20 pm to
The technology used in schools and libraries and the quality of lockers, desks, chairs, and recreation areas don’t matter? What about functioning AC? No?


Noted.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 11:21 pm
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5339 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:21 pm to
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CLEARLY, the HS graduates were more educated unless the definition of the word has zero to do with accumulating actual knowledge.


While your anecdotal example comparing a terrible college to good high schools does show its possible for high schoolers to do better on a high school-level test (the ASVAB is not exactly the ARE or LSAT) than poorly educated college students that were taken from the bottom rung of college attendees (NSU has unbelievably low standards for admission), it doesn’t mean that the ASVAB should be used as the measuring stick.

I was a solid high school student in Louisiana (3.2 GPA, but 31 ACT). If you just looked at my ACT relative to many others, you might say I was smart, but that’s on high school material. Subsequently, I matured through my graduate degree and by the time I went back for my master’s I would say I was pretty well educated.

Plenty of high schoolers get over a 31, but unless they’ve also gone through the other 7 years of school I did I would argue that doesn’t make them more educated (yet). The point is, though your example is an extreme, it’s very possible for a great high schooler to beat a college graduate on a high school test while still being less educated. (And yes, NSU is still terrible)
Posted by NOLAManBlog
The Big Nasty
Member since Dec 2012
1160 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:23 pm to
There are a grand total of zero (0) black women posters on this entire site to defend themselves. Lock this thread.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:24 pm to
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The number of awarded associates, bachelors, masters, and PhD degrees.


It actually said Black women get a lot more degrees than Black men, and then it went on to say there are a higher percentage of Black women in some sort of college program than other groups.

It made no statement if degrees are earned or what type of programs they may be in.

An AA program in a community college is counted the same as a PhD program at an Ivy League school in that article.

The take away may be Basic Educational Opportunity Grants are great for community college enrollment.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:25 pm to
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 their criteria, if a black woman gets a gender studies degree and can't get a job she's more educated than a white male HS graduate who makes $80k as a welder?


Technically. Yes.

I make more money with my degree than a LSU Psychology MS graduate. Being degreed has nothing to do with salary.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:26 pm to
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While your anecdotal example comparing a terrible college to good high schools does show its possible for high schoolers to do better on a high school-level test (the ASVAB is not exactly the ARE or LSAT) than poorly educated college students that were taken from the bottom rung of college attendees (NSU has unbelievably low standards for admission), it doesn’t mean that the ASVAB should be used as the measuring stick.
There is basically NO MEASURING STICK of testing actual knowledge where blacks are not dead last. ZERO. ZILCH. NADA.

So, managing to crawl through the doors of whatever college will take you in is NOT a measure of "education".

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I was a solid high school student in Louisiana (3.2 GPA, but 31 ACT). If you just looked at my ACT relative to many others, you might say I was smart, but that’s on high school material. Subsequently, I matured through my graduate degree and by the time I went back for my master’s I would say I was pretty well educated.
This is like pointing out that some 3 star players turn out great and some 5 stars bust.

Yeah. But you give me a team of all 5 stars and my twin coach a team of all 3 stars and I'm kicking my twin's arse with regularity!

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(And yes, NSU is still terrible)
But EVERYONE who graduates there is counted as "educated".

But it goes beyond just the school. I'm sorry. Even within LSU. If you gave tests of general knowledge the sociology department and then, after that, to the business school kids, the business school kids are gonna kick the sociologist's asses.

And B school kids aren't even the cream!
Posted by creppeln
Member since Mar 2018
41 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:28 pm to
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There are a grand total of zero (0) black women posters on this entire site to defend themselves. Lock this thread.


*one

nice to meet you...
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21923 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:35 pm to
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One word: Predictable.


Yes, it's easy to predict that racism will be called out.
Posted by creppeln
Member since Mar 2018
41 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:35 pm to
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But EVERYONE who graduates there is counted as "educated"


I mean that sounds like more of an issue with our education system... in general. No one is arguing that the education system and our standards aren't low as a country.

It's a widespread issue of the way our colleges are in America and our high schools for that matter. This isn't unique to just one race, and it's ignorant to say something so overgeneralized like this.

Donald Trump-- was ELECTED into office. To actually lead the USA-- If that doesn't show how dumb and gullible we are as a nation Idk what does.



Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76769 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:35 pm to
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You are proving my point.
No you use common data sets to compare. For a speed WR, you gauge data set 1. If you use worse comparable scores, just to get more white speed WRs in the league. . .did you make the speed WRs better?

So for Engineering colleges, you use data set 1.

You don't use dataset 1 for whites and asians, then use a degrading qualifying data set for other races without degrading the body as a whole.

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"Best" is very difficult to quantify objectively.
You use common data.

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Mortality measures only pertains to a small subset of surgeons.
I am assuming we agree that the discussion is regarding life-saving surgery. . .hence mortality rates.

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You're not making any sense.

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