re: What are the odds Key plays in the bowl?

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No way in hell I would draft him if I was a NFL GM.

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That’s why you work the third shift at the Dairy Queen instead.

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That’s why you work the third shift at the Dairy Queen instead.

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Nope that is why people like you work for me, while I am at home sleeping. I don't take risk on people with questionable character and poor work ethic.

You nailed it. You can tell the people that will never be successful, without changes. Hard to relate to that mentality, but I was raised with pride, integrity, heart. There are still many players out there that do have those qualities.

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it. You can tell the people that will never be successful,

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People were saying the same shite last year about fournette. he's had a really good rookie year.

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who cares at this point...hes basically been a non-factor all year.

His distractions are on par with RP a few years back.

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Holy frick. What a joke you are. How are the two situations even vaguely comparable?

Somewhere between -10% to 0%.

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Nope that is why people like you work for me, while I am at home sleeping.

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You wish, shithead.

I don’t doubt you’re home sleeping ... hoping the unemployment check comes in today.

Fact is, potential first round picks are more and more going to be sitting out these shite bowls, and I don’t blame them.

Want them to play? Let’s become playoff-relevant.

But that usually doesn’t happen when a moron Athletic Director hires a career-position coach for HC.

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If you think there is ANYWAY he slips past the 7th pick at worst in the draft you are crazy! If you want a recent example of someone who tried less than he did look at Clowney. Not only did he barely play his Junior year, but Spurier came out and called him out right before the draft as lazy and he still was picked #1. He also had WAY less production in college than Key has had playing in the same conference. I'm sorry, you are looking at this with purple and gold glasses and not living in reality. He will probably be a top 5 pick, but he definitely will not slide into the 10-15 range.

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This is the second time I've seen a Clowney comparison. Big difference is Clowney is a bit bigger than Key. Key is a lot more like Mingo than he is Clowney. He gets by on SPEED and speed alone pretty much. When Key put on this weight and he was around 265 he was slow and unathletic.

Clowney was an imposing figure physically and from a quickness standpoint. Key is all about getting around the edge with a speed rush. There's a big difference there.

Key may still get taken in the Top 10 or so picks even if he skips out on another opportunity to prove himself (against a top OT), but if he doesn't and he fumbles down the draft, we all know exactly why. It's tough for a lot of NFL teams to put that much money and expectations on someone who basically quit on himself and his team a bit in his money year in college.

Key could dispell any notions of effort if he came back and played at an elite level for a whole season. Certainly could have a bad injury too, but again, if I'm an NFL team I'm not banking a 1st round pick on him as it stands.

Less than zero.

Just saw on Twitter McShay has him ninth in his latest mock draft.