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How did they justify the Steinle verdict?

Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:55 pm
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36196 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:55 pm
How in the world did they end up not guilty??
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68152 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:56 pm to
Jury nullification.

It's an FU to Trump. That's all.

Similar to O.J.

Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37693 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:56 pm to
Not guilty of murder but guilty of involuntary manslaughter
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12033 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:56 pm to
They already justified it. It's Trump's fault! Because it's FU California. No other justification needed, in their eyes.
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20910 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:57 pm to
The new words to people should be “don’t go to California because they don’t care about your safety“.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51702 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:57 pm to
Mind blowing , sickening. frick that jury.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50183 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:57 pm to
Smoke, mirrors, and stupidity
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69353 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:58 pm to
The jury was stacked with a bunch of people named ghanesh patel and chi xi wu.

They chose to use their position to virtue signal about immigration rather than bring justice to a 5 time deported cretin.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61345 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:58 pm to
People have an unnatural and evil hatred of Trump. Its incredible.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35116 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:59 pm to
Her family should sue the ever living frick out of the city. They released the fricker instead of turning him into ICE and he goes off and kills someone?

frick that. Sue the city dry
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:01 pm to
Get the gringa.

What a victory for the left! gutter trash gets away with it

They would like him to be able tovote.
Posted by Paradiddler
in a groove
Member since Jul 2016
1316 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:01 pm to
I've had some great times in Cali, mostly SoCal, but I think it may be time to trigger the San Andreas and kiss those morons goodbye.
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
7084 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:02 pm to
The public defense Attorney for the Illegal Alien called out Trump in an interview with the media after the verdict & called it a vindication for immigrants. It was complete & utter arrogance to the 3rd degree & this guy should be beaten severely. If I am Kate's family I am going out for blood. If they don't they are better people than I am.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64726 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:07 pm to
ricochet
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

How did they justify the Steinle verdict?


It's a "technicality"...her losing her wonderful life at 33 years...is a technicality of legal concept. Too bad for her...good luck for the illegal criminal alien murderer. San Francisco!...WOOT!!


*Dumb pigs*
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19087 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:25 pm to
How?? Maybe by being in the courtroom and listening to the testimony. Whadda ya think?
Posted by winston318
Oklahoma City,OK
Member since Sep 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:03 pm to
Simple. The science said that it was an accident. This should have never gone to trial. The bullet hit the ground and bounced up.
Gun accidents happen all of the time. Remember when Chaney shot that guy. He didn't have a trial because it was an accident
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9421 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

How did they justify the Steinle verdict?


Evidence was presented in court that the bullet had ricocheted before hitting Steinle
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:40 pm to
They tried to charge for too much. They would have been able to nail him for manslaughter.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:24 pm to
it was an idiotic prosecutors fault.

The jury was to decide between Murder 1 and involuntary manslaughter.

California (no surprise here) has some bizarrely fricked up laws.

The following quote is not my opinion, it is from California Code and Findlaw:

quote:

quote:
In California, Homicide during the commission of a felony often results in a murder charge rather than a manslaughter charge. Murder 1 requires intent and malice.

When a killing occurred during the commission of a crime that is not a felony, the prosecutor must prove that the defendant had a criminal intent to commit the underlying unlawful act. If the defendant did not intend to engage in the crime that resulted in homicide, the state may be unable to prove involuntary manslaughter. The defendant may be able to establish a lack of intent by showing a reasonable mistake or lack of knowledge.


if my understanding of the law in California is correct, and the Prosecutor chose to give the jury murder 1 or involuntary manslaughter then that prosecutor is a fricking retard and deserves all of the hatred and blame, and I wouldn't bat an eye if he dies. He basically picked two charges that require intent for a case that had a defendant with an easily provable lack of intent.

The problem is murder 1 requires malice and intent. A good defense attorney can get him out of murder 1. Involuntary manslaughter in California can be taken off the table if the defendant can show "a lack of knowledge or reasonable mistake" however I find it unbelievable that that stupid fricking jury all agreed that firing a gun into a crowded pier is a reasonable mistake or you lack the knowledge that firing a gun into a crowd can kill someone.
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