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re: New Orleans could actually be a nice city

Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:56 am to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58306 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:56 am to
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If you push them out completely then who does the manual labor?



This is a huge problem. Someone has to take the low wage jobs to service the 30,000 plus hotel rooms and do the kitchen work at the hundreds of restaurants.
Sure it's nice the property values and rents are soaring, but we need these low skilled workers to have a place to live nearby or some decent transportation.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:58 am to
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who does the manual labor?


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Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19585 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:59 am to
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elect someone or a number of people competent enough


The people who would vote in a way to effect positive change have already fled that massive crime scene in numbers large enough to make sure the change never happens, and they're not going back.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:02 am to
One thing that a lot of Louisiana natives don't understand is that New Orleans is, for the most part, the state's only shot at attracting a lot of large economic developments. Even though it's hard to view New Orleans as the future of Louisiana with all of its problems, it's really the only way forward. No other city in Louisiana can realistically compete against the better midsize cities in the US
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:05 am to
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Even though it's hard to view New Orleans as the future of Louisiana with all of its problems, it's really the only way forward. No other city in Louisiana can realistically compete against the better midsize cities in the US



I dunno man, BR is on the cutting edge of strip mall technology and innovation.
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5390 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:11 am to
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New Orleans could actually be a nice city

Too many 55 year old men with ear rings.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8740 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:15 am to
Remember the ads on TV calling for folks to go out and vote for a millage increase because
"it won't raise YOUR taxes".

Which ties to the assessors whose friends' homes were always assessed much lower than sale price, or even what they paid.

Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18351 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:21 am to
Already happened at St Thomas
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5169 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:25 am to
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There was hope for it after Katrina.


Yep, then they poo-poo'd all over it. Re-elected Nagin
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:25 am to
Could be ... but the city needs a good scrubbing!
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69267 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:04 pm to
Exactly. You can't have marginal transportation then expect everyone to go outside the city of they can't afford $1500/mo housing.
Thing is, the park and ride from Kenner to nola is dead. It takes nearly two hours and four transfers to get from Kenner to downtown by bus.
Almost that long to the East as well.
I'll give RTA credit they have expanded routes, but off you really want all the poor in the East and the Wank you have to give them a way to get back and forth.
Shutting down the ferry to Jackson screwed a lot of workers of magazine st restaurants who came from the west bank.

Look at bus stops, most of those people are in work uniforms. We complain about an extra fifteen minutes of traffic like it ruins the day. Imagine waiting another 30-60 minutes for the next bus after a long day at work.

It's getting to the point where all uptown and central downtown(fq, bw, marigny) places either rent section 8, or at high end prices.

If I had a family on a $70k a year income and wanted a house, the only options would be Gentilly, Algiers or the East, if I didn't want to be in outright ghetto.


Not everyone is into the higher prices. A customer of mine on St Ann with a view of City park was renting out his 1b1ba bottom apartment for $675.
He knew he could get $1000 easily, but said he just wanted a fair price.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32127 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:11 pm to
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You can't have marginal transportation then expect everyone to go outside the city of they can't afford $1500/mo housing.


Have to wonder where Louisiana's cities would be with decent public transportation, decent highways, and better drainage.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:17 pm to
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The people who would vote in a way to effect positive change have already fled that massive crime scene in numbers large enough to make sure the change never happens, and they're not going back.



New Orleans, like most places, is in need of a benevolent dictator.

You can’t leave it up to the ignorant masses. I mean, you can, but it’s not going to work out.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33734 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:50 pm to
This isn't like saying Rio could be a nice city. Yea it's pretty but that doesn't mean it'll ever be a good place to live.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32127 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:56 pm to
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One thing that a lot of Louisiana natives don't understand is that New Orleans is, for the most part, the state's only shot at attracting a lot of large economic developments


I agree that New Orleans definite thinks along those lines.

In reality, it can't compete with mid tier southern cities for anything beyond tourism or ports. There absolutely has to be more cooperation between NOLA, BR, Hammond, and north shore.

I know people hate sprawl, but it may actually benefit Louisiana if there was more economic and political overlap in those areas. And perhaps a few competent leaders.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Quarterite
The Lower Quarter
Member since Oct 2016
959 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:05 pm to
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Why are there so many Nola threads on the OT?


Combination of jealousy and lingering butthurt over the city's removal of statues of traitors to America.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91000 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:08 pm to
Too much kulcha to have all those nice things
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7024 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 5:19 pm to
The people that could make a difference don’t give a damn. They have theirs.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
5661 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 5:24 pm to
To many poor's spread out everywhere. Not gonna happen!!!! They built a prison in the middle of the city. I wonder if they could have put it in the East. ????
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 5:49 pm to
The city has been run by Democrats since the 1870s. At that time New Orleans was the 6th largest city in the country.

This is what you get.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 5:51 pm
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