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re: MLB Offseason Thread: Hosmer to the Padres, Twins get a starter

Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:06 pm to
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he straight dropped off a cliff
and guess who got stuck with that shite
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:08 pm to
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But Yadi is better at just about every offensive category.


I would hope so considering the way the offense is vs 1970's and 80's

Yadi is worth a 98 OPS+ on average
Sundberg was worth a 90 OPS+ on average

Now take into account that Sundberg has the advantage defensively they would be about even imo
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:09 pm to
At least Hanley left LA before he got fat so it didn’t happen twice
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145253 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:12 pm to
Thankfully that was the exact opposite
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:25 pm to
Best of defender I've ever seen and he hit 450 home runs? I'm not saying he is a hall of fame but he deserves to stay on the ballot.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60221 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:26 pm to
No doubt
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:35 pm to
Notable players that fell off after 1 year and who at least deserved some consideration....

Jorge Posada
Jim Edmonds
Troy Glaus
Carlos Delgado
Moises Alou
Kenny Lofton
Shawn Green
Javvy Lopez
Tim Salmon
Harold Baines
Kevin Brown
John Olerud
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:45 pm to
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Jim Edmonds


He had a pretty decent 6 year strecth.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:53 pm to
Lance berkmans numbers should not be ignored. He's very similar to Jim Rice. He did have a swift Decline due to Injuries or he could. Have hung around and amassed counting numbers as a DH.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:49 pm to
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Jim Edmonds

One of, if not the, best defensive CF's I've ever seen. Some of his catches wete unreal, and he could cover some ground. He just doesn't have the offensive numbers to be a HOFer.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 5:55 pm
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9438 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:53 pm to
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Lance berkman's numbers should not be ignored. He's very similar to Jim Rice.

That he is, and Berkman was a dang good player. I know Rice is a HOFer, and I liked Jim Rice, but I don't believe either are HOFers.
Posted by BigD43
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:16 pm to
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I will agree with you that Pittsburgh should have spent some money a few years ago to supplement their core when their contention window was open. And I totally understand why Pirates fans are pissed about that, and I do think their return on Cole was very light.


Amen.

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But your cross sport comparisons are completely absurd as most are and show you don’t really understand the fundamental differences between the two sports.


if there is an nfl team that refuses to place an adequate team on the field in exchange for pocketing revenue, it's nowhere near the level of the Pirates.

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Also find me a pro baseball team that is currently good that has built their team primarily through free agency, regardless of market size.


I never said the Pirates had to do it primarily through free agency. Two years ago we just needed to a handful of guys to warrant a playoff run. They had a solid roster in 2015, let a ton of talent leave, and never replaced them anyone anywhere near as credible.

This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 7:21 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:36 pm to
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They had a solid roster in 2015, let a ton of talent leave, and never replaced them anyone anywhere near as credible.





They let Pedro Alvarez go for John Jaso
They let Neil Walker go for Josh Harrison

those were the only two position players they replaced from the 2015 team

AJ Burnett retired
JA Happ signed with Toronto
Charlie Morton signed with Houston
they replaced them with John Niese, James Tallison and Ryan Vogelsong

Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145253 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:30 pm to
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if there is an nfl team that refuses to place an adequate team on the field in exchange for pocketing revenue, it's nowhere near the level of the Pirates.
there are NFL teams who'd rather have Trevor siemian and the like start at qb instead of kaepernick all because they don't like his political views. Seems like a wash
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 9:33 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:51 am to
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there are NFL teams who'd rather have Trevor siemian and the like start at qb instead of kaepernick all because they don't like his political views. Seems like a wash


Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65860 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:24 pm to
Cardinals trade OF Randal Grichuk to the Blue Jays for P Dominic Leone and prospect RHP Conner Greene.
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Jenifer Langosch Verified account @LangoschMLB 6 minutes ago

As for RHP Dominic Leone, he had a breakthrough year in the Blue Jays bullpen last year: 65 games, 2.56 ERA, 11 holds, 1.052 WHIP, 81 Ks, 70.1 IP. He strengthens #STLCards relief depth.


10.36 K/9
2.94 BB/9
.77 HR/9
2.94 FIP
1.5 WAR
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28114 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:54 pm to
Grichuk could hit 30 homers this year if he gets the at bats for Toronto.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:57 pm to
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FRIDAY: Boston has actually offered something more in the vicinity of $125MM over five years, per Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald (via Twitter). Obviously, that’s a far sight more than what had been reported a few days back — and generally within the range of what might reasonably have been anticipated for Martinez entering the winter.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17358 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:27 pm to
And hit .240 with 200 strikeouts. He’s easily replaceable.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145253 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:49 pm to
dodgers are going to get yelich imo yhihf fwiw btw
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 5:50 pm
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