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Jemele Hill's Future at ESPN Remains Unclear After Suspension
Posted on 10/16/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 10/16/17 at 4:59 pm
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Then there is the show itself, dubbed SC6. What Hill and co-host Michael Smith envisioned, what made their chemistry honest and unique on the ESPN2 show His and Hers and their podcasts together, is being slowly chopped away by the addition of segments you see on traditional SportsCenter shows. Those include interviews with reporters in the field and blocks that feature the kind of short, bite-sized takes viewers get on shows such as Around The Horn. Multiple people told me last week that there is an effort to bring in ESPN talent as guests with opinions counter to the hosts. If I had to bet, I would bet that at this time next year the 6 p.m. ET slot is either a standard version of SportsCenter or some sort of PTI-extension. I would also bet that Hill is elsewhere.
Miller said he believes there is a fundamental flaw in assigning opinion-first talent to SportsCenter.
“I don’t think it is going to make it,” Miller said. “I think it was an experiment where the [SportsCenter] brand is being challenged technologically and by a host of other challenges in the marketplace, and they were trying to figure out ways to rescue it in a different way. You know what? That is great. That is what networks and executives are supposed to do. You try things and you don’t necessarily bat 1.000%. I think in this case, I think there is enough evidence and minds along the road to say we tried and we are going to figure out something different. If there is one takeaway from this whole SC6 experiment it is to make sure that if you are going to have someone with bold opinions and lot of gumption that you put them in an environment do that.”
as for the ratings...
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For the week of Sept. 26-29, 2017, Pucci’s last post on ESPN ratings, SC6 averaged 508,000 viewers including 277,000 adults 18-49. One year earlier in the same week (Sep. 27-30 & Oct. 2), the SportsCenter 6:00 p.m. show averaged 475,000 and 245,000 adults 18-49. That is a 6.9 percent increase in overall viewership.
You can also find weeks where the show is down: For example: For Sep. 12-15, 2017, SC6 averaged 448,000 viewers, down 20.2 percent from the 562,000 viewers for the corresponding week in 2016 when Hill and Smith were not hosts. The show averaged 408,000 viewers (and 215,000 adults 18-49) from Oct. 3-6, 2017. That was down from 477,000 from Oct. 4-7, 2016, per Pucci. Then there are the weeks that are flat: The 6:00 p.m. SportsCenter averaged 469,000 viewers for Oct 11-13, 2016. Last week, from Oct. 10-12, it averaged 463,000 viewers.
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 5:02 pm to RLDSC FAN
But will she still be #woke?
Posted on 10/16/17 at 5:04 pm to RLDSC FAN
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That is a 6.9 percent increase in overall viewership.
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 5:05 pm to RLDSC FAN
270k people in the key demo watch the show?
That's miserably pathetic.
I would expect late night infomercials for Shamwow to pull bigger numbers.
In a country with 360+ million people I'd expect about 300k tvs turned on to any channel by accident.
That's miserably pathetic.
I would expect late night infomercials for Shamwow to pull bigger numbers.
In a country with 360+ million people I'd expect about 300k tvs turned on to any channel by accident.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 5:06 pm to RLDSC FAN
There's no doubt that she's trying to build her brand and would leave ESPN in a second if she could.
But I don't think she can. Where's her landing spot because I don't see one.
But I don't think she can. Where's her landing spot because I don't see one.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 5:11 pm to RLDSC FAN
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For the week of Sept. 26-29, 2017,
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One year earlier in the same week (Sep. 27-30 & Oct. 2),
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 5:22 pm to RLDSC FAN
Hopefully ESPN takes advantage of this opportunity to get rid of her. Any other time and it would be dubbed a racist move for sure. It still might be but now is your best chance, ESPN!
Posted on 10/16/17 at 5:40 pm to RLDSC FAN
It's a shitty idea. Take an extreme viewpoint and make it the focus of your show. Statistically, that will turn off half the audience. In reality, a majority of the audience watching sports programming are conservative males, so the opinions are turning off more than 50% of your audience. And the possible attraction is black males (females aren't watching Sportscenter), many of which don't have cable, or would be watching sports center either way.
So the truth is this SC6 model only stands to reduce their possible audience to try and get a larger percentage of their new "preferred audience"
So the truth is this SC6 model only stands to reduce their possible audience to try and get a larger percentage of their new "preferred audience"
This post was edited on 10/16/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 10/16/17 at 5:42 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:So it sounds like despite less actual ESPN subscribers, the ratings are seemingly roughly the same?
For the week of Sept. 26-29, 2017, Pucci’s last post on ESPN ratings, SC6 averaged 508,000 viewers including 277,000 adults 18-49. One year earlier in the same week (Sep. 27-30 & Oct. 2), the SportsCenter 6:00 p.m. show averaged 475,000 and 245,000 adults 18-49. That is a 6.9 percent increase in overall viewership.
You can also find weeks where the show is down: For example: For Sep. 12-15, 2017, SC6 averaged 448,000 viewers, down 20.2 percent from the 562,000 viewers for the corresponding week in 2016 when Hill and Smith were not hosts. The show averaged 408,000 viewers (and 215,000 adults 18-49) from Oct. 3-6, 2017. That was down from 477,000 from Oct. 4-7, 2016, per Pucci. Then there are the weeks that are flat: The 6:00 p.m. SportsCenter averaged 469,000 viewers for Oct 11-13, 2016. Last week, from Oct. 10-12, it averaged 463,000 viewers.
Not saying the show will or should stick around but I'd almost count that as a W for SC6, no?
Posted on 10/16/17 at 5:53 pm to RLDSC FAN
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what made their chemistry honest and unique on the ESPN2 show His and Hers
This was honestly good television. Those two together on that show brought the best out of each other, and fit well as just one of the ESPN programs.
Putting them together on the network's flagship show was questionable to say the least.
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If I had to bet, I would bet that at this time next year the 6 p.m. ET slot is either a standard version of SportsCenter or some sort of PTI-extension. I would also bet that Hill is elsewhere.
I used to like the extra PTI segment at the beginning of SportsCenter.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 6:12 pm to RLDSC FAN
They should have built this thing around SVP and not these 2 clowns. For your flagship program to only be basically limited to only being able to talk the NFL and NBA was just stupid. The political shite aside, there was no reason to tune in because I don’t value the opinions of either of the hosts.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 6:36 pm to RLDSC FAN
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That is a 6.9 percent increase in overall viewership.
I wonder if that 6.9 percent increase was worth the harm that show did to the overall brand of ESPN.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 7:08 pm to RLDSC FAN
They'll just try to make her a martyr like they are trying to do with Kaep.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 7:14 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Remains Unclear After Suspension
If true, ESPN is stupider than I thought, which would be very hard.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 6:51 am to RLDSC FAN
If they take out the numbers from the places like Sports clips, and Just 4 Him that run ESPN all day on all their screens the number would be much lower. Imagine how many places put ESPN programming on all day with nobody really watching.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 7:28 am to RLDSC FAN
The show sucks so bad she had too stir up controversy to make her exit look like it was ESPN and not her
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:30 pm to RLDSC FAN
How the hell have viewers increased? That makes no sense.
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