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Les Miles
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:24 pm
Starting to think we fired him too quickly. Yeah he had blunders, but we were more discipline and relevant. Hope we don't turn into Tennessee or Texas. If he doesn't get fired we would've had a top 3 recruiting class and more respect. Just my 2 cents
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Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:26 pm to PEABODY32
Kids would run through a wall for him, and one thing we played with is passion
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:27 pm to PEABODY32
It was time for a change. Inept leadership was not up to the task of selecting a new coach.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:29 pm to PEABODY32
Knowing what we know now, I really wish Miles was still here.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:30 pm to PEABODY32
quote:
Starting to think we fired him too quickly.
ya think?...
I am betting that if Miles were here, we would be near a top 5 team right now...of course, our fans would still be wanting him fired immediately.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:31 pm to PEABODY32
No, we fired him too late. As shitty as our team is this year, our offense is still ranked in the top half of the NCAA which Cam Cameron wouldn't be close to sniffing with this talent. Les' teams looked awful against inferior competition, his brand of football was boring, he was hardheaded, he started having clock management issues and other blunders from getting older I guess, he looked generally zoned out and lackadaisical on the sidelines, and his recruiting was beginning to seriously drop off which is basically identical to Orgeron at this point.
We should've fired Les as soon as it became apparent that he wasn't changing and made a GOOD hire, stop kissing his arse just because we made a literal 0/10 quality hire, it's getting pathetic and ridiculous but I'm not sure why anyone would expect our fanbase to see this rationally
We should've fired Les as soon as it became apparent that he wasn't changing and made a GOOD hire, stop kissing his arse just because we made a literal 0/10 quality hire, it's getting pathetic and ridiculous but I'm not sure why anyone would expect our fanbase to see this rationally
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:35 pm to PEABODY32
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Starting to think we fired him too quickly.
No. This is panicked thinking.
Alleva's frick up in hiring the Ogre had nothing to do with this. It was PAST time for Les to go.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:43 pm to PEABODY32
Our fans didn't like going in to the Bama game undefeated after rolling over everyone.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:45 pm to PEABODY32
Les shoulda rode off into the sunset in 2015 on his players shoulders. But the guy did have a heck of a fun at LSU. He'll be judged very well as time goes on. I sorta admire a guy who will lose the greatest job of his life because he's loyal to a friend of 30 years.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:50 pm to PEABODY32
What Coach O is doing to this program will set us back years. It will take numerous seasons to recover from this
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:52 pm to PEABODY32
That you, Les?
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:58 pm to PEABODY32
He’s better than O
Even with his time coming
Even with his time coming
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:03 pm to PEABODY32
Love Les. Wisconsin game was an unorganized shite show
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:20 pm to PEABODY32
We knew the risks before Les was gone. It was going to be hard to replace a coach of over a decade who had the highest winning percentage of any coach in LSU history. But, the program had plateaued for multiple reasons including Miles' stubbornness and the unfortunate existence of Nick Saban.
I greatly fear that if Alleva survives this season, we are not going to return to being a national powerhouse. Irreparable damage has already been done but might be undone if we act now. Another year under Orgeron and I truly fear that we become Nebraska, Tennessee.
Please, BoS, hear our plea. Call your emergency meeting and get this ball rolling. Do any of you seriously believe at this point that this will get better? The resemblance of this team to Orgeron's Ole Miss teams is remarkable. Fire the man who did this to us all, and let your new AD (Scott Woodward) do as he sees fit with the coaching staff. This won't get better unless you try to make it better. Might already be too late but at least make an effort.
I greatly fear that if Alleva survives this season, we are not going to return to being a national powerhouse. Irreparable damage has already been done but might be undone if we act now. Another year under Orgeron and I truly fear that we become Nebraska, Tennessee.
Please, BoS, hear our plea. Call your emergency meeting and get this ball rolling. Do any of you seriously believe at this point that this will get better? The resemblance of this team to Orgeron's Ole Miss teams is remarkable. Fire the man who did this to us all, and let your new AD (Scott Woodward) do as he sees fit with the coaching staff. This won't get better unless you try to make it better. Might already be too late but at least make an effort.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:46 pm to PEABODY32
Y'know, there's nothing wrong with wanting a change for the better, for wanting more.
The thing is, you have to line that coach up before you make the move on Miles. Hell, done the right way, and Miles would likely have handed it off.
Be 2 steps ahead: find the hot young guy, and hire him as an assistant. Let him take over when Miles steps down; when the new guy is ready.
Fla St did that, so it wasn't impossible.
Who knows if Aranda was earmarked for that... but he wasn't ready yet.
Second option- find the guy you want, and make him an offer he can't refuse. Saban said no to Bama, until he said yes.
Either way, you don't push Miles out, until you have the improvement you seek lined up and ready to sign. And then you pull Miles into the office with the next guy, tell Miles that he is the next coach, and let Miles decide whether he becomes an honorary ambassador for the school, retired, or a fired coach. He was nearing retirement anyway, he'd almost certainly have done it with class, had he been treated with class.
You just don't fire the winningest coach in program history in the middle of the season with no plan, and expect to stumble upon the answer. And you certainly don't hand things over to a guy with a toxic resume, no matter how good his sales pitch is (and for God's sake, he's a known recruiter, you should know going in that he is good at telling people what they want to hear); you thank him for his time and move on.
The thing is, you have to line that coach up before you make the move on Miles. Hell, done the right way, and Miles would likely have handed it off.
Be 2 steps ahead: find the hot young guy, and hire him as an assistant. Let him take over when Miles steps down; when the new guy is ready.
Fla St did that, so it wasn't impossible.
Who knows if Aranda was earmarked for that... but he wasn't ready yet.
Second option- find the guy you want, and make him an offer he can't refuse. Saban said no to Bama, until he said yes.
Either way, you don't push Miles out, until you have the improvement you seek lined up and ready to sign. And then you pull Miles into the office with the next guy, tell Miles that he is the next coach, and let Miles decide whether he becomes an honorary ambassador for the school, retired, or a fired coach. He was nearing retirement anyway, he'd almost certainly have done it with class, had he been treated with class.
You just don't fire the winningest coach in program history in the middle of the season with no plan, and expect to stumble upon the answer. And you certainly don't hand things over to a guy with a toxic resume, no matter how good his sales pitch is (and for God's sake, he's a known recruiter, you should know going in that he is good at telling people what they want to hear); you thank him for his time and move on.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:50 pm to PEABODY32
uh, HELLO ???
Miles lost to 10-3 Wisconsin, and 8-5 Auburn the year he got fired
He also lost to an Arky coach, who hadnt won a SINGLE game in the SEC. Then lost to his 8-5 team again the next year
He also was only winning a bowl game every other year. And its not like we were playing in stellar bowl games either.
The decline had clearly begun. We just needed a coach that could right the ship, Instead, we hired Ponamsky
Put me down as a 'No'
Miles lost to 10-3 Wisconsin, and 8-5 Auburn the year he got fired
He also lost to an Arky coach, who hadnt won a SINGLE game in the SEC. Then lost to his 8-5 team again the next year
He also was only winning a bowl game every other year. And its not like we were playing in stellar bowl games either.
The decline had clearly begun. We just needed a coach that could right the ship, Instead, we hired Ponamsky
Put me down as a 'No'
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:05 am to PEABODY32
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Starting to think we fired him too quickl
We fukked up should have broght in a big name when we had the chance
Posted on 10/7/17 at 12:39 am to PEABODY32
Well if you think the ceiling for LSU is consistently 3rd in the west with 3-5 losses a year with no QB developement and an offense that was highly predictable and easily stopped by a top 20 defense.
In retrospect yes Miles is better than O as of right now. Maybe O rights the ship and LSU takes off. Its doubtful, but still possible.
If we would have landed Tom Herman or Jimbo Fisher I doubt we would be in this perdicament as both have a track record of coaching.
When I watch LSU it almost seems like half the players are unmotivated so I immediately blame the coach. The defense was horrible aganst Troy and MSU so I question if Aranda was the mastermind or just the compliment to Miles.
I would have loved to keep Les as the defensive coordinator with Aranda, but that would never have happened.
The reason Miles is gone was the poor offensive performance when a team could contain the run. We chose to do something different when he didnt fire his OC.
O is a band-aid that we didnt peel off at the end of the year because it stopped the bleeding. Now the wound is infected because it was covered too long.
Edit. As others have posted every successful program has a head coach that can run one side of the ball. There are not to many head coaches in the modern game (1995 and up) that are managers.
In retrospect yes Miles is better than O as of right now. Maybe O rights the ship and LSU takes off. Its doubtful, but still possible.
If we would have landed Tom Herman or Jimbo Fisher I doubt we would be in this perdicament as both have a track record of coaching.
When I watch LSU it almost seems like half the players are unmotivated so I immediately blame the coach. The defense was horrible aganst Troy and MSU so I question if Aranda was the mastermind or just the compliment to Miles.
I would have loved to keep Les as the defensive coordinator with Aranda, but that would never have happened.
The reason Miles is gone was the poor offensive performance when a team could contain the run. We chose to do something different when he didnt fire his OC.
O is a band-aid that we didnt peel off at the end of the year because it stopped the bleeding. Now the wound is infected because it was covered too long.
Edit. As others have posted every successful program has a head coach that can run one side of the ball. There are not to many head coaches in the modern game (1995 and up) that are managers.
This post was edited on 10/7/17 at 12:43 am
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