Since this has now turned into a rebuilding project

5...6 years TOPS

Really ? Can we play at least one game after a loss before we throw in the 'rebuilding' towel ?

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Since this has now turned into a rebuilding project

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Y’all keep taking stuff to the extremes. It’s almost like you don’t like O and haven’t from the beginning, and want him to fail.

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Since this has now turned into a rebuilding project
How long does Ed O need to meet expectations?

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Honestly- if this becomes a rebuilding process, cut bait with O now. Either elevate Aranda if you think he will become a good HC, or go get a young HC from somewhere.

By rebuild, I mean start from scratch. You don't take an old coach for what will take years to accomplish, because when you get where you want, he will be on the way out.

We brought in Miles to maintain, and he did. We brought in Orgeron to maintain. If he can't, he must go.

Meh. Maybe it is a rebuild, but if this team doesn't start playing with some passion and discipline, nothing is going to change the perception that O is in over his head.
He will have this year and next to prove that progress is being made. End of story.

There was a really good, 30-something page thread that got at it this issue the other day, albeit from a different perspective. My thinking is as follows:

1. We probably are in a rebuilding mode, at least to a greater extent than we would like to admit. Uneven recruiting and poor player retention, primarily on the lines, have put us in that spot.

2. If we are in a rebuilding mode, O probably wasn't the best choice. Bully for him that he was able to campaign for and get the job.

3. Even if the school made a mistake with the hire, it doesn't matter. O's the coach and he has to be given a reasonable chance to succeed. That means 2-3 years in the absence of some sort of malfeasance.

4. On the bright side, we still have plenty of talent and it is amazing what difference a key offensive or defensive playmaker can make. We may not be that far off even if the roster has holes.

This is not a rebuilding project. We hired a guy whose ceiling is the last guy's floor. O will be mediocre and won't get fired until attendance starts to suffer. This is Florida hiring Ron Zook only we should have known better.

IF this was a rebuilding project like what many are saying, why was O even hired? TAF is on the hook for huge future liabilities. The administration went small and doesn't realize the true wealth of the program.. see Wall Street Journal article from this week. Alleva went out and hired the equivalent of an upcoming Saban for basketball yet pulls a 180 with the football hire.