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Trump ending DACA 'one of the ugliest and cruelest decisions ever made by a President'
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:08 am
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:08 am
Bernie Sanders stating the obvious.
The more I read about these kids and what they've had to overcome to just be able to go to college I'm in awe. They can't get federal aid, only a few states offer any state aid. All the while, many have excelled while constantly having this albatross on them not being a citizen even though they know no other country.
DACA allowed them to get social security numbers, drivers license in some states but most importantly a job. They will lose these jobs that many went to college for years to have in just six months. There will be no other option. They will not be able to work here legally. The probability that this Congress will get something done about this is highly unlikely. Do you have any doubt that Trump won't deport them? By this time he will have already destroyed their lives over something they had absolutely no control over.
I know I've bitched about Trump a lot but I've never considered him evil in a vile human being context. I just think he's obnoxious. But if he destroys these kids lives like this, history will not remember him kindly.
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"Taking legal protections away from 800,000 young people raised in this country is absolutely counter to what we stand for as a nation," Sanders continued. "If Trump ends DACA, Congress must act immediately to restore it."
The more I read about these kids and what they've had to overcome to just be able to go to college I'm in awe. They can't get federal aid, only a few states offer any state aid. All the while, many have excelled while constantly having this albatross on them not being a citizen even though they know no other country.
DACA allowed them to get social security numbers, drivers license in some states but most importantly a job. They will lose these jobs that many went to college for years to have in just six months. There will be no other option. They will not be able to work here legally. The probability that this Congress will get something done about this is highly unlikely. Do you have any doubt that Trump won't deport them? By this time he will have already destroyed their lives over something they had absolutely no control over.
I know I've bitched about Trump a lot but I've never considered him evil in a vile human being context. I just think he's obnoxious. But if he destroys these kids lives like this, history will not remember him kindly.
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This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 12:19 pm
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:09 am to Toddy
I guess the faucet of young Mexican boys to abduct is getting cut off and this bothers you?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:09 am to Toddy
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Had the president not acted, Texas and 9 other states would have filed suit Tuesday. They would have won. These people risked immeidate revocation of their work visas. Apple HR would be legally obligated to pink slip them that day. Deportation risk depends on their location. This compromise by trump gives them a chance. If you have an issue with the risk these people are facing, blame disgraced former president obama for granting them these privileges through clearly unconstitutional action.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:09 am to Toddy
Democrats mad their steady flow of voters is slowing down
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:10 am to Toddy
That happened with ACA.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:10 am to Toddy
So if I run out and lose my job due to a DUI then the government won't prosecute because it would hurt my son?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:11 am to Toddy
Obama should have gone through congress. Trump is doing the correct thing and sending to Congress to fix.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:11 am to Toddy
Interested to see how this is announced... I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of DACA, but wasn't it enacted by Obama illegally? Isn't it a congressional issue?
If the President comes out and says "I am ending this illegal declaration, with a six month grace period for it to be properly written and passed by Congress" then I don't see anything wrong with it.
However, I won't hold my breath.
If the President comes out and says "I am ending this illegal declaration, with a six month grace period for it to be properly written and passed by Congress" then I don't see anything wrong with it.
However, I won't hold my breath.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:12 am to Toddy
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:13 am to Toddy
Bernie is a loon.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:13 am to Toddy
This is LITERALLY the cruelest decision a POTUS has ever made. LITERALLY. Like nothing even compares.....
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:14 am to Toddy
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:20 am to Toddy
Necessary evil considering how unwilling liberals are to securing the border and preventing illegal immigration.
800,000 is an absolute admission of failed policy.
800,000 is an absolute admission of failed policy.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:24 am to Toddy
quote:Have you considered that you are the evil one? You are full of evil and hatred and sin.
t I've never considered him evil in a vile human being context.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:25 am to Toddy
quote:Not exactly.
Trump ending DACA 'one of the ugliest and cruelest decisions ever made by a President'
quote:Telling 800,000 young people raised in this country that they had protections which they never actually had is 'one of the ugliest and cruelest decisions ever made by a President'
Taking legal protections away from 800,000 young people raised in this country
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:27 am to Toddy
Obama creating it was one of the most ill-advised and unthinking ideas of many his presidency is responsible for. He just created a mess for someone else to cleanup.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:30 am to Toddy
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Trump ending DACA 'one of the ugliest and cruelest decisions ever made by a President'
Well, I don't know about that, but it's about time someone started the process of enforcing the laws on the books. Here illegally?...Get out.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:35 am to Toddy
Your link doesn't work.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:42 am to Toddy
I guess the price of young male prostitutes is going up for you 
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:45 am to Toddy
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Bernie Sanders
Stopped reading there. If I want to read the words of a communist I'll read Marx.
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