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re: why are white guys on the browns kneeling during the anthem?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:56 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:56 am to Lester Earl
quote:But that isn't the fault of anyone but the mother. You can't blame anyone but the mother that made the poor decision in that case. That is self accountability. Females that continue to do that are being a bigger plight on the community than anything else because they are perpetuating the poverty cycle. It can only be broken when they stop it.
Imagine being born into a poor single mother household in which you weren't planned for to begin with
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:58 am to MontyFranklyn
well why does this phenomenon seem to happen at a higher rate within the african american community than any other group?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:58 am to dabigfella
quote:Well being that I said that the deck is somewhat stacked equally, I assumed that you would get the idea that that is exactly what I was saying
ok so indians,arabs,etc are all thriving bc of the fight blacks puts up 60 years ago. I wont disagree with you there, but why are they benefitting today without the barriers blacks still seem to have? At what point do we say its bc they're more educated, they work harder, and have better family units and when we do accept those realities, we can throw skin color out of the equation bc those people are not white
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:03 am to dabigfella
quote:Various social policies that go back to the 60s and 70s. Alot of people are unaware of how skilled programs were taken out of black schools. Welding, plumping, machining, brick masonry were all available at the high school level and you could graduate with a certificate in them back then. Having these skill made black people self sufficient and sustainable. Sadly, they were taken away for whatever reason. Not saying that they couldn't still be acquired, but acquiring them was a little more difficult. Add that in with the intentional split of the black family unit, flooding black neighborhoods with drugs and guns and you get what you see today.
well why does this phenomenon seem to happen at a higher rate within the african american community than any other group?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:04 am to MontyFranklyn
You said white people had a head start in accumulating wealth as if the current economic statuses of the majority of white people has anything to do with what their ancestors accumulated.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:20 am to MontyFranklyn
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Females that continue to do that are being a bigger plight on the community than anything else because they are perpetuating the poverty cycle.
And you realize that these mothers came from similar backgrounds as well, right?
Did you have a sexual education class in school? Did your dad sit you down and tell you about contraceptives? I'm guessing someone at some point had these talks with you.
It's easy to say they just need to stop. But the fact is they aren't educated on it to begin with. Yes it needs to be addressed because it is a huge problem. We can agree on that but let's not assume they are granted the same privileges as we are
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:54 am to Winston Cup
His wife is black, his future kids will fall under the "one drop" rule. Love is stronger than what ever that is you're working with.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:04 pm to Lester Earl
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That truly is awesome and I'm not fricking with you
Thanks. The dude is my role model irl. Incredible guy--i'm very lucky to be his son. Trying to be half as good a father to mine now.
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Now would you say he was born at a disadvantage?
Yes. Same disadvantage that anyone born in that situation would face, the. Growing up in a stable, two-parent home is a ridiculously reliable barometer of success, regardless of race or class. Takes a shitload of intrinsic motivation to overcome that.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:07 pm to Jaytee68
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Love is stronger than what ever that is you're working with.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:54 am to Winston Cup
Jaytee68
dont bring me into this
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:17 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Yes, but that is no excuse to continue it. In fact, growing up in that situation should make you not want that for your own child.
And you realize that these mothers came from similar backgrounds as well, right?
quote:I knew babies came from having sex as do they. More education is needed though.
Did you have a sexual education class in school? Did your dad sit you down and tell you about contraceptives? I'm guessing someone at some point had these talks with you.
quote:Some that come from stable two family homes are doing. They are essentially going backwards.
It's easy to say they just need to stop. But the fact is they aren't educated on it to begin with. Yes it needs to be addressed because it is a huge problem. We can agree on that but let's not assume they are granted the same privileges as we are
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:20 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Add that in with the intentional split of the black family unit, flooding black neighborhoods with drugs and guns and you get what you see today.
You make this sound like this was driven by supply rather than demand.
Is that an accurate read of what you're insinuating?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:39 pm to SabiDojo
quote:It does. First of all this is not a simple equation, but allow me to explain. When whites took control of this country they took control of all of its natural resources, not whites as a whole, but individuals non the less. That gave the white community a disproportionate advantage to begin with. So while having control of these resources enacted genocide of the natives, enslaved blacks and Chinese and and set a system that only allowed themselves to prosper. So industries are built by whites where they only hired whites and cycled their money within. They also enacted laws to make sure this cycle would hold true. In situations where blacks were prospering they were killed and all progress of economic independence was washed away(see Tulsa). This also was done on an education level as well. Blacks being killed for knowing how to read and not having proper resources in a lot cases later on limited alot of education potential and directly contributed to the lack of value in education for some, though that is not the only reason, but it is one reason of many. Moving forward, as companies owned by whites continued to grow and as new ones emerged they continually hired whites at disproportionate rate and when blacks and latinos were hired the ceiling were very low for them. Add in nepotism and the good ole' boy system in the south and they were able to ensure little to no monetary growth in non white communities.
You said white people had a head start in accumulating wealth as if the current economic statuses of the majority of white people has anything to do with what their ancestors accumulated.
So basically if you had given any other group the head start it would look the exact same for that group as a whole right now. It is really that simple.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:41 pm to Willie Stroker
quote:If that is the only thing that you are supplying them they will have to demand it in a controlled market.
You make this sound like this was driven by supply rather than demand.
Is that an accurate read of what you're insinuating?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:00 pm to MontyFranklyn
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If that is the only thing that you are supplying them they will have to demand it in a controlled market.
So you are claiming that guns became prevalent in black communities because it was the only thing that was supplied to them?
In all honesty, that sounds hardcore stupid to the bone.
But please try persuading me with sound reasoning. When Americans with darker skin go into low income neighborhoods do they get supplied with different products than lighter skinned people who go into the same low income neighborhoods?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:08 pm to Willie Stroker
quote:If you take away any opportunity for self sufficiency, which I pointed out with the examples of the programs that were available in high schools being scrapped, and replace it with drugs, which was done by the CIA, you create the turf wars. They were buying guns from CIA operatives. LINK
So you are claiming that guns became prevalent in black communities because it was the only thing that was supplied to them?
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:19 pm to MontyFranklyn
Judging by your post in this thread. This place has been hella entertaining. 
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:39 pm to MontyFranklyn
So if your response is to identify illegal drug sales by black run street gangs and their suppliers, you also seem to be absolving these street gangs for the harm they willingly chose to inflict on what they saw as their own communities. It is my position that it inflicted more harm on black communities than slavery did. I don't mean that to sound provocative. But there is no one alive today that has experienced what it is like to be a slave on American soil. Every natural born American has known nothing but freedom since birth. The harm seems to have come after birth and is largely self inflicted.
These communities have other choices, right? Do you find it odd that most people don't blame McDonalds and other fast food restaurants for obesity? We tend to blame ourselves for own consumer choices. So why blame street gangs and their supply chain for the abundant demand for illegal drugs in low income communities?
Street drugs aren't even cheap. It's cheaper to buy beer or liquor and carries much less risk.
These communities have other choices, right? Do you find it odd that most people don't blame McDonalds and other fast food restaurants for obesity? We tend to blame ourselves for own consumer choices. So why blame street gangs and their supply chain for the abundant demand for illegal drugs in low income communities?
Street drugs aren't even cheap. It's cheaper to buy beer or liquor and carries much less risk.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:51 pm to JBeam
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Judging by your post in this thread. This place has been hella entertaining
Lotta black (poster) on black (poster) crime. Kinda weird for Tigerdroppings.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:03 pm to Willie Stroker
quote:Thats not true at all.
Do you find it odd that most people don't blame McDonalds and other fast food restaurants for obesity? We tend to blame ourselves for own consumer choices.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:09 pm to Willie Stroker
quote:It is funny how you went straight to the gangs, but won't take into account how they got the drugs when I linked three credible sites sharing the same story of the CIA pushing dope into black communities. Do you think that a government run agency headed by whites is not guilty in any of this?
So if your response is to identify illegal drug sales by black run street gangs and their suppliers, you also seem to be absolving these street gangs for the harm they willingly chose to inflict on what they saw as their own communities. It is my position that it inflicted more harm on black communities than slavery did. I don't mean that to sound provocative. But there is no one alive today that has experienced what it is like to be a slave on American soil. Every natural born American has known nothing but freedom since birth. The harm seems to have come after birth and is largely self inflicted.
These communities have other choices, right? Do you find it odd that most people don't blame McDonalds and other fast food restaurants for obesity? We tend to blame ourselves for own consumer choices. So why blame street gangs and their supply chain for the abundant demand for illegal drugs in low income communities?
Street drugs aren't even cheap. It's cheaper to buy beer or liquor and carries mu
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