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re: why are white guys on the browns kneeling during the anthem?

Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:10 pm to
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Thats not true at all.


I'm not sure where he was going with that. There are many lawsuits that have changed the way McDonalds has to advertise.
Posted by monz29
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:14 pm to
You mind if we dance with yo dates?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12869 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:15 pm to
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Thats not true at all.

You must be a fan of those pseudo-documentaries that blame these corporations for consumer choices.

Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12869 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:18 pm to
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It is funny how you went straight to the gangs, but won't take into account how they got the drugs when I linked three credible sites sharing the same story of the CIA pushing dope into black communities. Do you think that a government run agency headed by whites is not guilty in any of this?


That's not funny at all. But it is mildly amusing that you chose to ignore my statement that identifies "and their suppliers". You even included it as part of my remark you quoted.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:21 pm to
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I'm not sure where he was going with that. There are many lawsuits that have chan

When did lawsuits from bloodsucking attorneys become a reflection of what most people think? The public generally hates frivolous lawsuits intended to point fingers at deeper pockets rather than where blame actually lies.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:23 pm to
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That's not funny at all. But it is mildly amusing that you chose to ignore my statement that identifies "and their suppliers". You even included it as part of my remark you quoted.
If given no choice but to sell drugs to survive and you have no other skills so no one is going to hire you, what will you do?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:24 pm to
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When did lawsuits from bloodsucking attorneys become a reflection of what most people think?


Right, keep blaming the attorneys. Everyone loves to hate on attorneys until they really need one.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:38 pm to
Now tell me how a system that used to operate that way continues to do so.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 2:54 pm to
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Now tell me how a system that used to operate that way continues to do so.
The damage is done. The goal is complete. It will take twice as long to fix as it was to cause. That is the point. That was the goal.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:10 pm to
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If given no choice but to sell drugs to survive and you have no other skills so no one is going to hire you, what will you do?

No choice? bullshite.

And again you're focusing on supply. That leave out free will (choice).

This is about choice. Productive people are productive because they do things that productive people do. Poor people are poor because they do things that poor people do.

Some poor people stop doing things that poor people do and start doing things that productive people do and miraculously...begin seeing their income and wealth start to grow.

The minute productive people start doing things that poor people do, they become less productive and will quickly become poor if they continue down this path.

This correlation works with a very high rate of reliability, regardless of skin color and regardless of what life was like for their dead relatives. It even works like a charm with first generation immigrants that come here without speaking a word of English.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:43 pm to
It obviously won't be solved overnight, but the black population in America can help themselves by changing their culture. If they can do that, they can absolutely do very well.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 3:51 pm to
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This correlation works with a very high rate of reliability, regardless of skin color and regardless of what life was like for their dead relatives. It even works like a charm with first generation immigrants that come here without speaking a word of English.
They also don't have to face the horrid past that blacks have faced. They actually, as I said before, get to benefit off the fight that blacks have made. Basically blacks have paved the way for them to succeed ironically.
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:28 pm to
Interracial marriage. Has kids
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:51 pm to
How did I know this would make the headline on fake news cnn.com today?

"First White NFL Player Kneels During Anthem"'

LMFAO thats like CNN's wet dream to get all the white people to turn against the cops too
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:54 pm to
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If given no choice but to sell drugs to survive and you have no other skills so no one is going to hire you, what will you do?


This right here is no offense, the dumbest statement I have ever read in my life. Even if you have no skills, there are more jobs than you can imagine out there, did you ignore my post earlier? Im in the small business world and I can't even maintain a full staff, its that difficult to keep people. Do you know what kinda hoops I jump through to keep good people? I buy cheap homes and rent them to them, I help them by financing cars for them, etc. I have ads in the greensheet,craigslist,etc on a daily basis. I wish I could say I could pick from the cream of the crop to hire but I hire just about anyone that is willing to show up, thats what sucks with dealing with minimum wage workers but there is absolutely no shortage of small businesses in this country needing workers. They sell drugs bc they dont want to make $8-12/hour, they want more money, but dont you dare sit there and say they sell drugs bc there are no jobs out there.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12869 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:58 pm to
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They also don't have to face the horrid past that blacks have faced. They actually, as I said before, get to benefit off the fight that blacks have made. Basically blacks have paved the way for them to succeed ironically.

No other group seems to let themselves get hung up on the past experiences of dead relatives. Why is that?

Are you suggesting that if other minorities that have succeeded in this country would have had dead ancestors that were treated as poorly, that facing this reality of their ancestry would have also held them back?

Of course many dead people with similar skin color paved the way. It's noteworthy and commendable. But once the path has been paved, why do other immigrant populations make more productive decisions?
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 5:39 pm
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 5:33 pm to
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Still cracked me up watching the highlights and seeing this white guy kneeling to lash out at his oppressed life.


It's funnier to me that we're 1 year into this and you still don't understand the very simple concept that their protests have nothing to do with their own personal oppression.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:14 am to
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This right here is no offense, the dumbest statement I have ever read in my life. Even if you have no skills, there are more jobs than you can imagine out there, did you ignore my post earlier?
No. We were talking about the situations and social policies of the past and how the drug culture became so prevalent in the black community. I'm just trying to get you to understand how we got to this point. You are focused on the present, but you can't understand the present without understanding the past.

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Im in the small business world and I can't even maintain a full staff, its that difficult to keep people. Do you know what kinda hoops I jump through to keep good people? I buy cheap homes and rent them to them, I help them by financing cars for them, etc. I have ads in the greensheet,craigslist,etc on a daily basis. I wish I could say I could pick from the cream of the crop to hire but I hire just about anyone that is willing to show up, thats what sucks with dealing with minimum wage workers but there is absolutely no shortage of small businesses in this country needing workers. They sell drugs bc they dont want to make $8-12/hour, they want more money, but dont you dare sit there and say they sell drugs bc there are no jobs out there.
Yes, but look at the past to see how we got to this point. It was the intentions a few to have what we see today.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:23 am to
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No other group seems to let themselves get hung up on the past experiences of dead relatives. Why is that?
What past? What horrid past did the Asian Indians face coming over? Like I said the blacks had already paved the way for them here in America.

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Are you suggesting that if other minorities that have succeeded in this country would have had dead ancestors that were treated as poorly, that facing this reality of their ancestry would have also held them back?
I'm suggesting that if you replace blacks with any other minority in America from the very beginning they'd look the same way today.

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Of course many dead people with similar skin color paved the way. It's noteworthy and commendable. But once the path has been paved, why do other immigrant populations make more productive decisions?

Because they didn't have those things done intentionally to set them back. Did the CIA pump dope into Asian Indian communities when they arrived? The Chinese brought their opium with them. The CIA purposely flooded black communities with drugs. Add that in with taking opportunities from blacks to learn skills and not having many employment opportunities to rise above poverty, and you get what you see today. If that had been done to any other group you'd get the same results. If I took over America right now I could do the same to any group and it would mirror what you see in the black community today.
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