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Republicans should thank John McCain
Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:17 pm
a) This bill was absolute shite. None of the bills proposed were that great (personally I preferred repeal/replace) but this bill was just terrible. It did nothing to curtail the rise of premiums, and actually disincentivized people from getting health insurance. Plus from what I read last night, the rollbacks on the mandate were temporary. 
b) when you are in a situation where you want to pass a bill, and hope the other legislative body doesn't pass it you aren't making good decisions for the country.
c) The senate would let go of all deal making by sending it to conference, as house republicans could just say - well ok we will pass the bill you passed.
d) Republicans can still blame healthcare of obama.
I know many of you don't see it this way, and I get you are angry. Trump needs a win, and there is no win in sight. The budget is going to suck, tax reform will be a bitch and infrastructure?
Republicans still need to get back to work on healthcare, and come up with something that is a good bill. I really like trump's call for them to skip recess to work on this bill.
b) when you are in a situation where you want to pass a bill, and hope the other legislative body doesn't pass it you aren't making good decisions for the country.
c) The senate would let go of all deal making by sending it to conference, as house republicans could just say - well ok we will pass the bill you passed.
d) Republicans can still blame healthcare of obama.
I know many of you don't see it this way, and I get you are angry. Trump needs a win, and there is no win in sight. The budget is going to suck, tax reform will be a bitch and infrastructure?
Republicans still need to get back to work on healthcare, and come up with something that is a good bill. I really like trump's call for them to skip recess to work on this bill.
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:18 pm to Hawkeye95
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Republicans should thank John McCain
Agreed...but only on this 1 thing.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:18 pm to Hawkeye95
Nothing will pass with 100% the democrats saying Nyet
Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:18 pm to Hawkeye95
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Republicans still need to get back to work on healthcare, and come up with something that is a good bill.
No. If we can't have repeal then just let it fail on its own.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:18 pm to Hawkeye95
The people who are thanking John McCain are the Republican congressmen who didn't want to pass the bill but had a constituency polling for passage. Knowing McCain would stop the bill they were free to vote 'yes' when they really wanted to vote 'no.'
Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:20 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:LEAVE US ALONE IN OUR GRIEF!
Hawkeye95
Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:21 pm to Hawkeye95
I don't blame Johnny boy... I blame the rest of the repubs who had years and years and years to come up with something better.... and failed
Say what you want about the dems, they have their shite together and move in lock-step... repubs, not so much
Say what you want about the dems, they have their shite together and move in lock-step... repubs, not so much
Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:23 pm to Hawkeye95
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Republicans should thank John McCain
I think you mean conservatives.....Reps are RINOs or Dem-lites......and JM is an a-hole of epic proportions
Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:23 pm to Hawkeye95
There should be a Trump bill that someone champions in the Senate.
This vague BS he is spouting about beautiful healthcare needs to be defined and clearly articulated so the people know exactly the benefit of it and exactly when it take effect.
This vague BS he is spouting about beautiful healthcare needs to be defined and clearly articulated so the people know exactly the benefit of it and exactly when it take effect.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:39 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:Only way I see forward at this juncture is mandatory healthcare insurance for all.
This bill was absolute shite.
Medicaid plans open for purchase at cost.
Anyone above poverty line would be assessed a progressive tax capped at the total cost of medicaid insurance.
Proof of insurance would exempt the tax.
100% of the population would be insured.
Private policies could either supplement Medicaid as they do in Medicare-plus, or replace it. Private policies available across state lines along with reversion to pre-ACA requirements.
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With the extremely high cost of Medicaid exposed, next focus would have to be on bringing down costs of care. Opening up pharmaceutical, equipment, and device purchase to international markets, Tort reform, elimination of CONs, etc.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:00 pm to Hawkeye95
Why cant infrastructure go forward? Its not like all 435 are working on hc bill.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:07 pm to Hawkeye95
So what he has said no to everything. Except he and Graham proposal
Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:25 pm to Hawkeye95
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It did nothing to curtail the rise of premiums
Is government action really the only thing in the universe that can accomplish this?
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when you are in a situation where you want to pass a bill, and hope the other legislative body doesn't pass it you aren't making good decisions for the country.
How about voting for a bill in hopes that it will be vetoed?
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Republicans can still blame healthcare of obama.
Silver lining
Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:47 pm to Hawkeye95
I'm almost to the point where I agree with Trump. Just let the damn thing collapse.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:53 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:
deal making
deal making?
mutherfrick a "deal"
did those cocksuckers negotiate any deals when they ramroded the most egregious piece of shite legislation in the last 100+ years, stomping on the rights of its taxpaying citizens?
frick no they didnt
frick them, and frick making deals
Posted on 7/28/17 at 3:04 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:Troof.
This bill was absolute shite. None of the bills proposed were that great
But in reality there is no magic plan that will deliver what the American people demand a t price they are willing to pay.
Democrats have shifted the burden for producing such an unrealistic plan onto republicans. They've worked it masterfully.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 3:54 pm to Hawkeye95
Responding to the OP-I just think at this point they move on and say "we tried but Dems would not budge" and let Obamacare blow up. Republicans can't really come back from this with their base, the damage is done, so now they should just move on to tax reform and immigration etc and hang it around the Dems neck. It's the least crappy of their many crappy options-and totally reaffirms everything we have always known about the more cowardly of our two political parties. If they whiff on the next agenda item up, they'll get absolutely slaughtered in 2018 and this whole Trump opportunity will have been for nothing.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 3:58 pm to Hawkeye95
I wish there was a democrat to thank for tanking Obamacare, but unfortunately most were bought off.
Now we are stuck with a massive shite sammich that has really fricked the middle class.
Now we are stuck with a massive shite sammich that has really fricked the middle class.
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