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Why did Northern men volunteer to fight in the Union Army?

Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:11 pm
There was a draft but my understanding is that drafted numbers were relatively low.

So why would someone on a farm in Ohio volunteer to go attack people in another state who just wanted to be left alone?


Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44041 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:20 pm to
To preserve the Union.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:36 pm to


And the stupidest thread on TD today goes to...

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72741 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:42 pm to
Treason is about as good a reason as any.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:46 pm to
I'll let Ulysses S. Grant's words from a letter to his father speak for themselves:

quote:

There are but two parties now: traitors and patriots. And I hereafter want to be ranked with the latter.


This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48518 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:47 pm to
They fought to have all of the Confederate statues removed from Southern cities.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

There was a draft but my understanding is that drafted numbers were relatively low


LINK

Wikipedia link in-re the NYC draft riots.

People of means could buy their way out of the draft.



Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64499 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:03 pm to
The draft came later in the war.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20453 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:10 pm to
No idea, my fam came from the North, but half fought for the Union the other for the Confederacy.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36241 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:35 pm to
This quote from Ang Lee's "Ride with the Devil" just about sums it up for me.

Mr. Evans: They (Yankees) rounded every pup up into that schoolhouse because they fancied that everyone should think and talk the same free-thinkin' way they do with no regard to station, custom, propriety. And that is why they will win. Because they believe everyone should live and think just like them. And we shall lose because we don't care one way or another how they live. We just worry about ourselves.

Jack Bull Chiles: Are you sayin', sir, that we fight for nothin'?

Mr. Evans: Far from it, Mr. Chiles. You fight for everything that we ever had, as did my son. It's just that... we don't have it anymore.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:57 pm to
Because their factories would have been empty if they couldn't force the South to sell their raw materials to the North rather than France and England -- using their numbers advantage in Congress to impose export tariffs.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:58 pm to
They knew that if the South was a separate nation they would have to pay an import tax for cotton clothes. All wars are about the fashion industry. See Zoolander.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55856 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:00 pm to
using the same logic, why would americans volunteer to fight in wwi, vietnam, korea?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9632 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:15 pm to
Go and watch Ken Burns' "The Civil War".
One of the few good ones he made.
Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
3862 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:41 pm to
Because no one likes traitors and killing them is fun, go USA
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:49 pm to
Because farming is boring and tedious.
Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 6:21 pm to
People enjoyed war back then. Men were expected to fight.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

There was a draft but my understanding is that drafted numbers were relatively low.


At the beginning of the rebellion, the Union took a number of 3 year men as volunteers. The secesh enlisted the bulk of its army for a year. Figures are hard to come by because the secesh forcibly reenlisted many who don't show as drafted. About 1/3 of the rebel army was drafted one way or the other. About 6% of the 2 million Union soldiers were drafted.

After a year a lot of the rebs had had enough soldiering. They were forcibly reenlisted or shamed into avoiding the draft the so-called CSA instituted in 1862.

Some large number of Union men, despite the maladroit management of affairs, especially relating to the Army of the Potomac reenlisted in the summer of 1864, despite the brutal campaign they knew that Grant would pursue.

They enlisted and reenlisted because they knew that there could be no appeal from the ballot to the bullet.

"Peace does not appear so distant as it did. I hope it will come soon, and come to stay; and so come as to be worth the keeping in all future time. It will then have been proved that, among free men, there can be no successful appeal from the ballot to the bullet; and that they who take such appeal are sure to lose their case, and pay the cost. And then, there will be some black men who can remember that, with silent tongue, and clenched teeth, and steady eye, and well-poised bayonnet, they have helped mankind on to this great consummation; while, I fear, there will be some white ones, unable to forget that, with malignant heart, and deceitful speech, they strove to hinder it.

Still, let us not be over-sanguine of a speedy final triumph. Let us be quite sober. Let us diligently apply the means, never doubting that a just God, in his own good time, will give us the rightful result."

Yours very truly
A. Lincoln

-8/26/63

This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 6:38 pm
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 6:49 pm to
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