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re: NBA Finals Thread Game 4: Warriors @ Cavs -- Cavs avoid sweep 137-116-Warriors lead 3-1

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Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:10 pm to
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Lebron was a +32 tonight with another triple double. Most importantly, as the leader, he had the Cavs ready for their best game of the season. In a game where rolling over was definitely plausible. They'll lose game 5, but this was impressive.
In these Finals, the Cavs are +1.7 per 48 with LeBron on the court, and -57.3 per 48 when he's off. A net difference of 60.8 points.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:10 pm to
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I get what you're saying here but let's say the Cavs miss 4 of those shots (12 points). That changes the game completely. Not saying it would've resulted in a Cavs loss (Curry was a no-show), but it changes the way the game is played.



It's not like they went on a crazy run of 3's though. It was all game. They could have missed 7 of them and assuming things play out the same, we're in OT right now. Cle dominated inside, outside, and on D
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:10 pm to
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Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:10 pm to
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Haha, I mean labron had his pg go for 40, how much more help can he ask for?


Lebron and Kyrie played out of their minds two games in a row at home. The others showed up tonight and won by over 20. The others no showed in game 3 and their heroics were pointless.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:11 pm to
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ZaZa should miss game 5 as well for punching Shumpert.

Completely disagree, but I hope he does.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:11 pm to
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I see you didn't watch the game.
Cleveland set the finals record for threes, shot over 55%c, shot less free throws then the warriors, and won by 21


And you blame the refs. Dude, that is some gaping pussy stuff
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 11:12 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:12 pm to
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Lebron also has some kind of mind control over Kyrie. He plays so much better when James is on the court.
He plays hero ball with LeBron off the court. He sometimes does that with LeBron, but the efficiency seems so much worse.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:12 pm to
TT showing up tonight and all of the threes was the difference
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:13 pm to
While I didn't see it live, the replay looks very egregious.

And people saying ZaZa missing would help GS, McGee can't play 48 minutes.
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:13 pm to
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He plays hero ball with LeBron off the court. He sometimes does that with LeBron, but the efficiency seems so much worse.
that start of the fourth quarter was almost death for the cavs with hero ball going on
Posted by Othello
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:14 pm to
I just saw Odell Beckham in the front row behind the GS bench.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:15 pm to
I just hate Zaza. Not sure it would help GS. He pushed back after he got his arm ripped well after the whistle. Good no call, imo.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:15 pm to
Love was also 1-9 in game 3 and 7-14 tonight.
Posted by redfishfan
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:15 pm to
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And people saying ZaZa missing would help GS, McGee can't play 48 minutes


Yea he's just as bad in PnR defense.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:17 pm to
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that start of the fourth quarter was almost death for the cavs with hero ball going on
The Cavs should be slowing it down no matter what, BUT they need to really limit GSW possessions when LeBron is in the bench.

GSW's pace was like 2.3 possessions faster in their wins than losses, so slowing it down makes sense anyways.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:17 pm to
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quote:
Lebron also has some kind of mind control over Kyrie. He plays so much better when James is on the court.
He plays hero ball with LeBron off the court. He sometimes does that with LeBron, but the efficiency seems so much worse.


It also helps having the best player in the league drawing defenders away and being the one dependable player to kick it out to on the team.
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:17 pm to
actually, the cavs are undefeated in the finals when dwill scores, thats the difference
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:18 pm to
Yeah, he's good for a couple alley oops, but he's not any good either.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:22 pm to
Cavs won every single quarter in this game

49-33 1st
37-35 2nd
29-28 3rd
22-20 4th

Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:31 pm to
just remembered all teh cavs fans started chanting "russell westbrook" when kd was shooting FTs. so weird
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