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re: Rank the top 10 current NBA players
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:19 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:19 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Factoring in future he might go first, even ahead of AD and KAT. Big men just can't have as much of an impact as wing players.
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:19 pm to LittleRockHog501
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I will spot you the finals series last year. Is there another series you can name that this was the case? He is really one of the more consistent playoff performers too. The guy was balling before Klay really broke out as a player.
I didn't say he played bad. He is generally great but his numbers tend to decrease in the postseason especially shooting %. Curry is a hard player to rank for me.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:20 pm to SabiDojo
We've gone 3 pages without Boom. Is he okay? Should we contact local law enforcement to do a wellness check?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:23 pm to slackster
quote:I have no problem with the OP's list or your list... except...
Tier 1 - LeBron
Tier 2 - KD, Kawhi, Westbrook, Harden, Curry, AD
Tier 3 - CP3 and others that take us past 10.
Cop out, I know, but the only real way to do it IMO.
AD should be lower than tier 2. He hasn't even won a playoff game. Yeah, he puts up stats but it hasn't led to winning at all.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:23 pm to CocoLoco
quote:I have AD behind PG because of the health issues and the fact that PG is that wing player like you mentioned.
I don't see how Giannis and George are better than AD. If you'd say they are more valuable because of todays NBA being better suited for the wing players, then I agree with that. But AD is a better player than those two, and not in his prime. Giannis has insane potential, though.
I have Giannis over AD mostly because the rate at which he's improving after looking at where he is right now compared to AD. Giannis shoots a higher percentage from the field. And averages 5.4 assists per game to AD's 2.1. And Giannis is "clutch" as hell(final 5 minutes of a game or OT down 5 or less).
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:24 pm to redfishfan
quote:I think most players with a large enough sample size well have slightly lower shooting percentage in the playoffs.
his numbers tend to decrease in the postseason especially shooting %.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:25 pm to PearlJam
If KD had the killer instinct of Harden or Westbrook, he would be on LeBron's level. I truly believe that. Maybe the most unguardable player in the NBA. A guy that tall who can shoot that well is just unfair.
I'll say:
Lebron
KD
Kawhi
Harden/Curry/Westbrook (These three are so damn close)
There is a pretty big dropoff after the Top 6
Giannis
AD
Chris Paul
Paul George or Jimmy Butler maybe? John Wall is close as well.
This bottom 4 is just not even close to the Top 6.
I'll say:
Lebron
KD
Kawhi
Harden/Curry/Westbrook (These three are so damn close)
There is a pretty big dropoff after the Top 6
Giannis
AD
Chris Paul
Paul George or Jimmy Butler maybe? John Wall is close as well.
This bottom 4 is just not even close to the Top 6.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:28 pm to PearlJam
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I think most players with a large enough sample size well have slightly lower shooting percentage in the playoffs.
Not really slightly lower. Again Curry is great but he's hard to rank for me. Maybe it's because I watched a guy that nobody has listed and rightfully so , Kyrie, completely work Curry over in the finals last year. When teams ganeplan to attack you on D it tends to dent my view of you.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:31 pm to Geauxgurt
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Why are you listing Harden twice? Boom is going to love you.
Was listing by last name.
LeBron James
If you are joking, please disregard the previous sentences
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:34 pm to PearlJam
1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Kawhi
4. Curry
5. Westbrook
6. Harden
7. Davis
8. Paul
9. George
10. Giannis
It's pretty open after 8, IMO.
2. Durant
3. Kawhi
4. Curry
5. Westbrook
6. Harden
7. Davis
8. Paul
9. George
10. Giannis
It's pretty open after 8, IMO.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:34 pm to redfishfan
quote:I agree. He's really hard to rank for me.
I think you could rank Curry from 4-10 and I wouldn't argue with it. He's just such a unique player
Put Lebron on the Bobcats and I could very easily see him doing damn near the exact same shite he does now. After a full season, he'd have guys where he needs them and would be able to manufacture some offense and make guys better like he does.
I think Kyrie would be similar to what he is now if you threw him on the Bobcats. Would he make them better in the sense that they were a threat to win a playoff series? Probably not. But I can envision how he'd fit on the team and what he'd bring.
I have no idea what Curry would bring to that team. I'm not saying he's only good because of what's around him in GS...but his skills are SO perfect for them that I could very easily see him falling off quite a bit. Or, he could be the same...?
Idk. And that's why he's hard to rank for me.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:37 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
We have a clear cut top 7-8 IMO Bron, Durant, Curry, Kawhi, Westbrook, Harden, Davis, then CP3 Lebron should be the clear #1, but from 2-7 it is super hard to rank.
Agreed. Putting one guy @ 2 and one guy @ 7 implies much more separation than what actually exist.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:40 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I have no idea what Curry would bring to that team. I'm trying saying he's only good because of what's around him in GS...but his skills are SO perfect for them that I could very easily see him falling off quite a bit. Or, he could be the same...? Idk. And that's why he's hard to rank for me.
Exactly. Curry's future is so interesting to me. Believe it or not he's already 29. I want to see him without 2-3 other top 20 players.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:40 pm to slackster
quote:Other than swapping CP3 into tier 2 and AD into tier 3, I agree entirely.
Tier 1 - LeBron
Tier 2 - KD, Kawhi, Westbrook, Harden, Curry, AD
Tier 3 - CP3 and others that take us past 10.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:43 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
Tier 1:
Lebron James
Tier 2:
Kevin Durant
Stephen Curry
Kawhi Leonard
Russell Westbrook
James Harden
Anthony Davis
Chris Paul
Tier 3:
Greek Freak
Demarcus Cousins
John Wall
Karl Anthony Towns
Jimmy Butler
Paul George
Good list IMO. I did this exercise on my own last week just to see where I had Cousins ranked (14th on my list). My list is not very different from yours at all. I had Lillard in my Tier 3 over KAT.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:44 pm to redfishfan
quote:I don't think Paul George has any business being in a tier with KD/Kawhi/Westbrook/Harden/AD...or as I'd do it, swap AD with CP3.
Think you gotta have PG in that tier. Dude can guard too.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:48 pm to htran90
quote:
1. LBJ - elite 2 way player - faults: shooting FTs
2. Durant - elite 2 way player - faults: health
3. Leonard - elite 2 way player - faults: ball handling
4. Curry - elite offensively - faults: size/defense
5. Westbrook - elite offensively - faults: shot selection
6. Harden - elite offensively - faults: defense
7. Davis - elite 2 way player - faults: health
8. Paul - elite 2 way player - faults: health
9. Giannis - elite 2 way player - faults: inability to shoot
10. George - elite 2 way player - faults: decision making
This is some pretty sound reasoning. I'm a big Paul George fan, but I think you have to put KAT in there ahead of him until George finds a way to put up numbers in a more efficient manner.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:50 pm to shel311
I personally wouldn't have either until I watched that Cavs series. He went toe to toe with LBJ. Celts need to move on him something serious.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:52 pm to redfishfan
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He went toe to toe with LBJ
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:52 pm to CocoLoco
You could win 70+ games with cocoloco's tier three team and 7 random bench guys of various heights from 6 2 to to 6 9".
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