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re: Louisiana Education, main complaints?

Posted on 4/23/17 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by GregFocker
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 7:58 pm to
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Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:00 pm to
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the teachers 
- the administration 
- the curriculum 
- teacher education 
- testing 


Yes
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10180 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:13 pm to
Charter schools and teachers.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48340 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:19 pm to
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But if you do your job as a parent, your kid will succeed even in LA public schools.


I know a kid who is brilliant. Despite great testing scores, he didn't get into BRHS as Freshman and ended up at Istrouma. He was supposed to be in Algebra II but the Adminstration couldn't get his scheduling right. He sat in a Spanish class for no reason until November then was finally moved into the correct math. Despite getting an A, he couldn't receive credit because he missed too many classes because they couldn't get the schedule right.

Explain how incompetence at the level can be overcome.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:23 pm to
I'm a huge proponent for raising teaching standards if you improve the pay as well.
Most education degrees are equivalent to a general studies degree
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Bayouboogaloocrew
Dixie
Member since Jul 2013
3183 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:24 pm to
SPED...by eating up funding, limiting the teachers ability to effectively teach the non-SPED students, and creating untouchable assholes that are immediate drains on society.

Can't upvote or agree with you enough.
Posted by Ellssu
Spying North of the Border
Member since Dec 2006
2478 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:28 pm to
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Most education degrees are equivalent to a general studies degree
then come teach my chem., physics, and A P. Chem classes with your general studies arse degree.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:29 pm to
I didn't graduate in education
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37208 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:31 pm to
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- the teachers


Many great teachers in this state. However, maybe just as many lazy ones, especially older ones, who are coasting by. Despite Common Core, they continue to stick to their old ways, old methods. These are the ones that have given the same tests 20 years in a row, copying it so many times that the print is faded and hard to read. With no real ability to fire a teacher, we end up with many bad ones. Low pay doesn't help either.

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- the administration


I think this is the biggest problem. My wife is a HS teacher and from what I can tell, being a teacher and being an administrator are two completely different skill sets. Yet... every administrator is required to have 3 years experience. What makes one a good teacher doesn't make one a good administrator.

Also, administrators who are "beloved" and have been a principal forever, yet are also coasting and not adopting to the needs of schools today.

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- the curriculum


No real issues here, except I think the schools could do more to educate parents about Common Core methods.

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- teacher education


Is an absolute joke here in LA. When we moved to Texas for a few years, despite my wife being fully certified in LA, she had to take all new certification tests, because TX basically laughed at an LA certification.

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- testing


This isn't LA specific so I don't think is a complaint per se about LA education. However, I think testing is well-intentioned but terrible in reality.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131554 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:34 pm to
Main problem is the system. We are afraid to let kids that fail, actually fail. We just lower the bar.

No kid left behind is an obnoxious policy.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11490 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:46 pm to
Parents of students suck is my main complaint.
Posted by Kadjin
edge of the basin
Member since Oct 2013
1252 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:47 pm to
Agree 100%, fat fingered a down vote, my bad
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:58 pm to
I agree several students should have failed but we promote them because we hope they"get it"
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98477 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:03 pm to
LHSAA, amirite?
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37772 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

What is your main complaint for education in Louisiana


LSU posters on the Rant
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:08 pm to
John White

He was brought in to set up Common Core. Once the backlash began, he had no clue. So the entire state is rudderless, for the foreseeable future
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:08 pm to
To many students where both parents are from Louisiana.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424741 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:09 pm to
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What is your main complaint for education in Louisiana

the quality of students

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how the system is geared to help the shitty students and not help the elite students. i understand the egalitarian and welfare aspects of the policy, but it's still backwards (and our macro results show this year after year)
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8237 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:13 pm to
Most public schools in Louisiana suck. But most public schools in the USA suck because the Dept of Education is a fricked up bureaucracy.
Posted by adavis
North of I-10
Member since Aug 2007
5749 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:32 pm to
About ten percent of my students are SPED and I don't have an aid. Imagine a class of 30 kids... 5 of them highly intelligent and 5 of them with modifications. Teaching those kids is like teaching calculus to a garden gnome. How can I possibly read tests aloud when I have 25 other students who want me to shut the hell up so they can take their tests? It's an injustice to every student in that class. Plus...the parents. Oh, the parents. I teach about 150 students and get like 3 parents during parent/teacher days. I try to call parents when I have issues with a child and..."we're sorry, but this number has been disconnected." The problem with Louisiana education is that our government has created a society of entitled crybabies and they are rewarded for producing children out of wedlock. There is no accountability.
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