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Need advice from O-T lawyers
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:10 pm
So, I'm about to be in the last semester of my masters program. I'm obtaining my MA in Philosophy. I was thinking about joining the ministry and attending divinity school, but now I'm leaning towards law school. I'm curious as to what the job market is like for law school grads and is law school worth it if I do not attend one of the top schools in the country? Does my Master of Philosophy improve my resume? Does admissions look at my graduate GPA? Should I invest in tutoring for the LSAT?
I finished my undergrad with a 3.6 GPA and have scored a 166 and 169 on the two practice LSATs. Thanks in advance O-T law baws
I finished my undergrad with a 3.6 GPA and have scored a 166 and 169 on the two practice LSATs. Thanks in advance O-T law baws
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:12 pm to mattytiger123
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I'm obtaining my MA in Philosophy. I was thinking about joining the ministry and attending divinity school, but now I'm leaning towards law school.
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:13 pm to mattytiger123
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. I was thinking about joining the ministry and attending divinity school, but now I'm leaning towards law school.
Well that's quite a shift.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:14 pm to mattytiger123
I have no knowledge of Law schools but in Academia I know this matters so I must ask- are you a white male?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:14 pm to mattytiger123
quote:Sabi is pumping gas at Winn Dixie if that tells you anything
I'm curious as to what the job market is like for law school grads
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:15 pm to mattytiger123
law is closed for the season
frick off please
frick off please
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:15 pm to mattytiger123
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So, I'm about to be in the last semester of my masters program. I'm obtaining my MA in Philosophy.
A man after my own heart.
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I was thinking about joining the ministry and attending divinity school
Fantastic.
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, but now I'm leaning towards law school.
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:15 pm to mattytiger123
I know an injury attorney in New Orleans who quit the seminary after a year.
With those stats you'll be fine.
With those stats you'll be fine.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:15 pm to mattytiger123
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divinity
mmmmm I love that sweet white sugar treat during the holidays
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:16 pm to mattytiger123
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I was thinking about joining the ministry and attending divinity school, but now I'm leaning towards law school
Talk about doing a 180.
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:16 pm to mattytiger123
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mattytiger123
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:17 pm to mattytiger123
Why are you "leaning towards law school"? Law school should never be a means to prolong school or something that you do because you don't know what else to do.
Like marriage, I would rarely recommend law school to someone (and I've been relatively lucky in my legal career and in my marriage).
Like marriage, I would rarely recommend law school to someone (and I've been relatively lucky in my legal career and in my marriage).
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:21 pm to mattytiger123
MA in Philosophy, huh?
Sounds you'll you'll be brief-writing for a defense firm and will never speak to an actual client
Sounds you'll you'll be brief-writing for a defense firm and will never speak to an actual client
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:24 pm to mattytiger123
Unless daddy owns a firm or you want to do intellectual property (unlikely with your background), find something else.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:25 pm to mattytiger123
I tend to agree with sabi.
But if you are hell bent on going to law school, do not go into debt on the tuition. Go to a good state school with low tuition. The market is pretty soft.
But if you are hell bent on going to law school, do not go into debt on the tuition. Go to a good state school with low tuition. The market is pretty soft.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:29 pm to mattytiger123
Job market for new lawyers sucks. Make law review and you can get a decent job, otherwise it's a crap shoot. Do poorly in law school and you'll be chasing ambulances.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:31 pm to mattytiger123
What the frick are you gonna do with a philosophy degree?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:58 pm to mattytiger123
1. The job market sucks really, really big time. Louisiana has four law schools that pump out hundreds of graduates each year. Most of the old entry level positions are now manned by paralegals, who will stay with the firm longer for lower salary, and won't split off into a competing firm after a few years.
2. You can still get a fine practical background from a non-top school. If you plan to practice in Louisiana, then consider that a local school will much better prepare you to pass the La. Bar, as each state's laws are different in some areas. LSU graduates pass the bar at the highest rate. Go to a "top tier" (expensive) school only if they will eat your tuition.
3. I don't think a MA in Philosophy improves your resume'. It is perhaps better than no undergrad degree at all, like me. Technical background like engineering or nursing is highly sought after. In fact, you may find that being a philosophical sort is a hindrance if your morals get offended by the conduct of others, including the lawyers you oppose.
4. Admissions standards can differ. It always helps to have good GPA, including grad school, and most schools will let you point that out in a letter.
5. Tutoring and preparation for the LSAT can help tremendously, some more than others, but costs don't equal quality. I teach Analytical Reasoning for a LSAT prep entity, and tutor privately. We usually do a low cost program at Southern in the Spring, underwritten by a grant from the school. Practice tests can be a fair predictor of performance, only if taken under the same conditions. With your grades and a decent score, you certainly will get in to many school. Harvard, you need a top 1% score or be a special case minority etc.
6. In general, DON'T DO IT. Law School, and the subject matter of law can be very interesting, but lawyers have some of the highest rates of alcoholism and suicide for a reason - actual law practice can be stressful and brutally unfulfilling, and destroy your family life. You don't automatically get rich, or even prosperous.
ALTERNATIVE ADVICE: Pursue it ONLY if you focus on Real Estate practice, as you mentioned, or Banking or other non-litigation area. That can provide a nice 9 to 5 job where you get a paycheck every two weeks and don't take the work home with you. Litigation against those other assholes gets old quick. If you focus on Real Estate, I suggest acquainting yourself with a title abstractor and learning how to do title research (makes an okay summer job too), and getting a license to write title insurance asap.
Long-winded when I get started, sorry.
2. You can still get a fine practical background from a non-top school. If you plan to practice in Louisiana, then consider that a local school will much better prepare you to pass the La. Bar, as each state's laws are different in some areas. LSU graduates pass the bar at the highest rate. Go to a "top tier" (expensive) school only if they will eat your tuition.
3. I don't think a MA in Philosophy improves your resume'. It is perhaps better than no undergrad degree at all, like me. Technical background like engineering or nursing is highly sought after. In fact, you may find that being a philosophical sort is a hindrance if your morals get offended by the conduct of others, including the lawyers you oppose.
4. Admissions standards can differ. It always helps to have good GPA, including grad school, and most schools will let you point that out in a letter.
5. Tutoring and preparation for the LSAT can help tremendously, some more than others, but costs don't equal quality. I teach Analytical Reasoning for a LSAT prep entity, and tutor privately. We usually do a low cost program at Southern in the Spring, underwritten by a grant from the school. Practice tests can be a fair predictor of performance, only if taken under the same conditions. With your grades and a decent score, you certainly will get in to many school. Harvard, you need a top 1% score or be a special case minority etc.
6. In general, DON'T DO IT. Law School, and the subject matter of law can be very interesting, but lawyers have some of the highest rates of alcoholism and suicide for a reason - actual law practice can be stressful and brutally unfulfilling, and destroy your family life. You don't automatically get rich, or even prosperous.
ALTERNATIVE ADVICE: Pursue it ONLY if you focus on Real Estate practice, as you mentioned, or Banking or other non-litigation area. That can provide a nice 9 to 5 job where you get a paycheck every two weeks and don't take the work home with you. Litigation against those other assholes gets old quick. If you focus on Real Estate, I suggest acquainting yourself with a title abstractor and learning how to do title research (makes an okay summer job too), and getting a license to write title insurance asap.
Long-winded when I get started, sorry.
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