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Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:09 am to slapahoe
if i were him, i'd be on the phone with the embassy of Ecuador and get a deal like Julian Assange.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:10 am to Rebel
Dude he has it better in Russia than being trapped inside the same building 24 hours a day for the last 4 years
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:11 am to knowingabyss
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I consider him a patriot, but come on, who didn't already know you were being spied on through your shite?
This. Snowden clearly had no idea the degree to which the American public would say WGAF? to the revelation that the govt was spying on text and data.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:47 am to kingbob
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100% Hero, as is Assange
Assange is not American. I agree that Snowden is a Patriot. It really comes down to motives and I think Snowden's were pure.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:09 am to kingbob
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He revealed that the government is using our mobile phones and internet service providers to spy on us every time we use them.
Honestly, who didn't already assume this was happening way before this revelation?
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:44 am to Tempratt
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He revealed that the government is using our mobile phones and internet service providers to spy on us every time we use them.
So is every major corporation. Why do you think the OT readers have porn ads scrolling their screen?
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:28 am to TxTiger82
Just because Assange isn't American doesn't keep him from being a hero for freedom and that's enough to make him at least an honorary patriot IMO.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:29 am to ShermanTxTiger
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Both... More of a Patriot though
i'm in this camp. he still broke the law and we have laws for a reason, but we need whistleblowers to be able to do their thing.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:31 am to 3nOut
He broke the law? The stuff he leaked showed those who are supposed to uphold and enforce said laws ignoring them completely.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:34 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:a goddamn American hero
He's an American hero.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:45 am to Meauxjeaux
I know he is wanted for treason against the US. What I would like to know is, how? Dude knew it was bullshite that our government was spying on its own and called [them] out on it.
in my opinion, we should have a day off work because of him.
in my opinion, we should have a day off work because of him.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:51 am to slapahoe
Good thread OP.
He had the balls to call-out the government for corruption. That's a good thing. Too bad must Americans don't care.
He had the balls to call-out the government for corruption. That's a good thing. Too bad must Americans don't care.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:59 am to UF
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Can anyone answer that question without knowing what all he disclosed?
I agree.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:07 am to stout
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He broke the law? The stuff he leaked showed those who are supposed to uphold and enforce said laws ignoring them completely.
agreed. maybe traitor is too strong a word but he broke the law itself by leaking it.
Don't get me wrong.... give me Snowden every day and twice on Tuesday, but he still broke the letter of the law and i salute him for it.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:11 am to slapahoe
He is a whistle blower almost to the definition. He should have some protection to disclose some things that are illegal. I'm not 100% on everything he sent out, but I lean toward Patriot.
I really don't see how Congress doesn't give him more support. It points to a lot of the hearings being just dog and pony show.
Congress call s Clapper in to testify under oath to the Senate, who says they are concerned about privacy. Snowden later releases stuff showing Clapper lied under oath to Congress. Nothing ever comes of it, except Snowden has to worried about a drone blowing his head off when he goes outside.
I really don't see how Congress doesn't give him more support. It points to a lot of the hearings being just dog and pony show.
Congress call s Clapper in to testify under oath to the Senate, who says they are concerned about privacy. Snowden later releases stuff showing Clapper lied under oath to Congress. Nothing ever comes of it, except Snowden has to worried about a drone blowing his head off when he goes outside.
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