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re: Peyton / Brees
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:12 pm to shel311
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:12 pm to shel311
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And i"m not saying Manning didn't deserve these or the writers are even biased towards him, I just mean in general.
Brees deserved to win the MVP in 2009. Both teams did pretty close to equally as well in the regular season, and Brees had a better statistical year in almost every category except a little over 100 yards less.
2011 would have been an MVP caliber year most years for Brees, but Aaron Rodgers beat out an all time great year with an even better year.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:21 pm to shaqfu33
Brees is the best player in the NFL
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:24 pm to lsu xman
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Brees is a system QB.
Correct. And the system is Drew Brees.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:42 pm to Volmanac
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Brees is a Hall of Famer but no quarterback in history has the resume of accomplishments Peyton has. The most Pro Bowls The most MVPs The most All Pro nods The most Touchdowns The most yards The most game winning drives The most franchises led to a super bowl title Etc etc
Brady will own half of those records in about 2 1/2 yrs.....also owns every post season record there is...
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:48 pm to Jack Ruby
I love Brees, but to me, the turnovers are gonna be what keeps him from being a top 2-3 QB perception wise. That and not being a perennial playoff participant. I'm still sick about that 2011 loss to San Fran as I think that 2nd SuperBowl(which I believe was very likely) would have done a whole lot for his legacy. Outside of New Orleans.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:50 pm to Hot Carl
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I love Brees, but to me, the turnovers are gonna be what keeps him from being a top 2-3 QB perception wise.
I agree. I think Brees is a top 10 qb ever, but I don't understand people who say he's top 3. Im content with him just being awesome . Also don't understand the haters who can't admit how good he is.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:51 pm to aib799
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Give me any reasons why Peyton will be considered to have the better career over Brees....He lost a lot of important playoff games,
He's played in many more playoff games. When he was out, the Colts went 3-13 or something like that. He rejuvenated the Broncos and also won a Super Bowl with them. He's won two Super Bowls and played in 3. Brees will finish with one. Manning changed the nature of QB in the NFL.
In single season passer ratings, Manning is #2 and #6. Brees highest is #12. Career ratings, Manning is 95.5, Brees 95.6
Manning holds the NFL record for passing yards in a season, after a severe neck injury. Manning has about 80 more TDs than Drew. We will see how Drew finishes.
Manning is #1 and #3 in single season TD's. Brees highest is 5th.
4th quarter comebacks. Manning is 1st. Brees is 10th.
Manning has many more MVP's and Pro Bowls
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:16 am to Volmanac
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The most Pro Bowls
The most MVPs
The most All Pro nods
These are subjective AF
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:09 am to LSUTANGERINE
Manning and Brady are top 3
Brees is definitely top 10, probably around 7-8, with a chance to rise. Unfortunately he'll probably never have an MVP or another ring. If he does get another ring or MVP he should be mentioned as top 4.
Brees is definitely top 10, probably around 7-8, with a chance to rise. Unfortunately he'll probably never have an MVP or another ring. If he does get another ring or MVP he should be mentioned as top 4.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:10 am to aib799
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one of his SB was on the back of a really good defense.
So just like Brady's 1st 3 superbowls?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 7:58 am to aib799
I expected this thread to be full of unbiased opinions....
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:10 am to LSUTANGERINE
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He's won two Super Bowls and played in 3.
Played in 4. 2-2 combined record, 1-1 at each franchise,
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:10 am to aib799
This thread again. How about Brees wins more.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:21 am to aib799
I like both manning and Brees but if these QBs played in today's games with the rules we have with hitting QBs or PI then give me
Moon
Montana
All time these are my top 10 in no order since 1980 because I never saw any play earlier than 1980
Montana
Moon
Brees
Manning
Brady
Favre
Kelly
Elway
Young
Rodgers
Moon
Montana
All time these are my top 10 in no order since 1980 because I never saw any play earlier than 1980
Montana
Moon
Brees
Manning
Brady
Favre
Kelly
Elway
Young
Rodgers
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:22 am to aib799
Peyton was the best at his position way more times than Brees. Payton is huge for brees' career. Peyton was huge for Peyton's career.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:53 am to aib799
Only QB with super bowl wins with two different franchises. There are lots of things.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:30 am to Peazey
brees is a system qb. He puts up alot of yards, but never many wins. He is an above avg qb though. nothing to be ashamed of
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:32 am to Peazey
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Brees deserved to win the MVP in 2009.
Absolutely. Over Manning.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:36 am to Hot Carl
Those bad defenses are a reason for some of Brees's stats... some games he has to keep racking up 400 yards and 4 TDs to give us a chance, whereas other QBs win with 300 yards and 3 TDs
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