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re: Not convinced Fisher is out of the picture
Posted on 11/25/16 at 8:54 am to jlnoles79
Posted on 11/25/16 at 8:54 am to jlnoles79
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That long of a deal is crazy
How so?
We just fired a guy who's been here for 10. Fisher has been at FSU almost that long. If he's leaving that situation, security at his new job is of major importance.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 8:56 am
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 8:55 am to I am GLORIOUS
quote:ha. Not simple at all.
Once the deal with Herman falls through, Alleva will go back to Fisher and they'll work something out. It's that simple.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 8:56 am to sicboy
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How so?
10 freaking years 65 mil guranteed?? Who else but Saban and Meyer should get a deal like that?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 8:58 am to jlnoles79
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If the 10 yrs 6.5 mil story is true. That sounds like a guy that was not real serious about leaving. That long of a deal is crazy
I think this will be a big bargaining chip for coaches moving forward. College football has become so volatile that coaches are going to want guaranteed time or increased buyouts to make sure they aren't shown the door by a few rogue boosters.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 8:59 am to jlnoles79
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10 freaking years 65 mil guranteed?? Who else but Saban and Meyer should get a deal like that?
Jimbo and Dabo would probably be the next 2 in line.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:01 am to jlnoles79
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10 freaking years 65 mil guranteed?? Who else but Saban and Meyer should get a deal like that?
He may be a rung below, but you swing for the fences on this hire.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:03 am to paper tiger
What is Happening according to my dad who ran a website for 10 plus years is normal negotiation.
I think that Jimbo knows he will have his most talented teams he has had at FSU over the next 3 years. He also knows that Coach Saban will not coach forever.
I think Jimbo would Love to go back to LSU for the right amount of money - but he is perfectly happy to sit at FSU and be in the conversation for a National Championship for the next 3 years and take the BAMA job as a consolation prize.
Lets play devils advocate and say that when Saban retires that BAMA goes after and gets Dabo, all of a sudden FSU/Jimbo would have a much easier path to the ACC Championship.
With all of that said I think it will end up like this -
1 - Herman goes to Texas. (I personally think LSU will be dodging a bullet here. Him kissing the players is just freaking creepy and I think he will be a bust).
2 - Jimbo is the real target for LSU and it is 50% / 50% that he goes to LSU but IMHO LSU will not pay him enough.
3 - O gets the Job.
No Source - just an Opinion.
I think that Jimbo knows he will have his most talented teams he has had at FSU over the next 3 years. He also knows that Coach Saban will not coach forever.
I think Jimbo would Love to go back to LSU for the right amount of money - but he is perfectly happy to sit at FSU and be in the conversation for a National Championship for the next 3 years and take the BAMA job as a consolation prize.
Lets play devils advocate and say that when Saban retires that BAMA goes after and gets Dabo, all of a sudden FSU/Jimbo would have a much easier path to the ACC Championship.
With all of that said I think it will end up like this -
1 - Herman goes to Texas. (I personally think LSU will be dodging a bullet here. Him kissing the players is just freaking creepy and I think he will be a bust).
2 - Jimbo is the real target for LSU and it is 50% / 50% that he goes to LSU but IMHO LSU will not pay him enough.
3 - O gets the Job.
No Source - just an Opinion.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 9:04 am
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:03 am to sicboy
quote:
TAF?
If so, more credible. However, I don't know for sure.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:05 am to paper tiger
Excellent read, really enjoyed the analogy to poker and think you are absolutely right. Post more , really was good to read a well thought out post and entertaining to boot. 
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:05 am to PairofDucks
Well whether you believe him or not, that 9458 guy or whatever said that the misdirection would be coming from boosters and such, and that he got his info from people actually on the search committee, and all of it would be the relieve the pressure from Jimbo in his last couple of days, help him coach his last game.
Yeah, might be absurd, but I still haven't seen anything solid that says Jimbo has flat out said no, so if that's floating around, misdirection?
Yeah, might be absurd, but I still haven't seen anything solid that says Jimbo has flat out said no, so if that's floating around, misdirection?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:05 am to sicboy
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He may be a rung below, but you swing for the fences on this hire.
That kinda deal is insane. You throw that out seeing how desperate LSU is.
I like Jimbo, but he wouldn't have been a lock. It does sound like that ship has sailed
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:09 am to paper tiger
Until FSU comes out and announces it has agreed in principal on terms to a raise and extension, Fisher is in play.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 9:09 am
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:12 am to jlnoles79
5 years from now, paying $6.5 million for Jimbo will be a steal for LSU.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:15 am to paper tiger
paper tiger, great post.
I agree that this is a high stakes poker game.
But, here is why I think it is highly unlikely Jimbo gets back into the picture: With the word leaking out about Herman, it appears that Herman was their first choice. If Herman ends up going to TX, and LSU comes back to Jimbo and gives him what he wants (65 million over ten years?) it still looks like Jimbo was Plan B. I doubt Jimbo would want to be thought of as Plan B.
I suspect that Jimbo and Sexton set a price tag out there that they thought LSU would accept. LSU didn't accept it.
So, the question is what will Jimbo do if LSU comes back and says, "We changed our mind. We'll give you everything you asked for"?
1. Would LSU do that?
2. Would Jimbo take it, or would he raise the stakes, or would he just say, "You had your chance. No, thanks"?
I agree that this is a high stakes poker game.
But, here is why I think it is highly unlikely Jimbo gets back into the picture: With the word leaking out about Herman, it appears that Herman was their first choice. If Herman ends up going to TX, and LSU comes back to Jimbo and gives him what he wants (65 million over ten years?) it still looks like Jimbo was Plan B. I doubt Jimbo would want to be thought of as Plan B.
I suspect that Jimbo and Sexton set a price tag out there that they thought LSU would accept. LSU didn't accept it.
So, the question is what will Jimbo do if LSU comes back and says, "We changed our mind. We'll give you everything you asked for"?
1. Would LSU do that?
2. Would Jimbo take it, or would he raise the stakes, or would he just say, "You had your chance. No, thanks"?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:16 am to paper tiger
Poker, whores, and operas all in one post. That's all you got?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:16 am to ellessuuuu
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Until FSU comes out and announces it has agreed in principal on terms to a raise and extension, Fisher is in play.
Not sure how his new deal (if he gets one) will look. Most of the talk has centered on even more control of the program and another boost to staff pay. Adding more consultants is another issue.
It sounds like Pres. Thrasher is good give the ok on all of that.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:18 am to paper tiger
So, where has all the Jimbo is out talk come from? Insiders on message boards, the ESPN ticker, etc?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:18 am to tigers32
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So, where has all the Jimbo is out talk come from? Insiders on message boards, the ESPN ticker, etc?
"Insiders"
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:19 am to bret75
Jimbo has always been the top target...
Last and this year...
Last and this year...
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:29 am to ApexTiger
Fsu better give jimbo a raise or he will end up at lsu. Unless Herman is the guy.
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