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Work In Progress: My order of preference....

Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:54 pm
1. Jimbo
2. Herman
3. Chip Kelly
4. Aranda -- sliding him up here.
5. P.J. Fleck
6. Desperation mode.... Willie Taggart.... Lou Tepper, Hal Hunter

I think Aranda should be at the top of the B list.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 11:45 am
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:02 pm to
I agree except i wouldn't say Aranda is a desperation hire. although i understand why you phrased it that way.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65121 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:07 pm to
What kind of a list is that? Hal Hunter should be ahead of Lou Tepper.
Posted by tigersruledude
Member since Oct 2005
1718 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:53 pm to
1. Jimbo
2. Herman
3. Orgeron

Why take a risk on those other guys if you know what the floor is with Orgeron. Huge risk with any of those guys and i'd rather roll with the continuity and recruiting we know Orgeron would bring.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 2:03 pm to
quote:


Why take a risk on those other guys if you know what the floor is with Orgeron. Huge risk with any of those guys and i'd rather roll with the continuity and recruiting we know Orgeron would bring.


Then why did we fire Les Miles? You're basically saying that we hire another Miles by hiring Orgeron. Really terrible argument on your part. Too scared to take a chance so take guaranteed mediocrity.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39571 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 2:06 pm to
Orgeron's floor is pretty low. He's a terrible head coach.
Posted by NastyTiger
Hammond/Baton Rouge/Lafayette
Member since Jun 2005
11271 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 2:08 pm to
1. Tom Herman
2a. Jimbo Fisher
2b. Chip kelly

Make Herman say no.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45308 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 2:17 pm to
Aranda will be gone after next year regardless. Someone will offer him a HC job. Hell, he might be gone to Houston this year if Herman leaves. I would seriously interview him.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11953 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

1. Jimbo
2. Jimbo
3. Jimbo
4. Jimbo
5. Jimbo
My order of preference.
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 2:19 pm
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4840 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

1. Jimbo 2. Herman 3. Orgeron Why take a risk on those other guys if you know what the floor is with Orgeron. Huge risk with any of those guys and i'd rather roll with the continuity and recruiting we know Orgeron would bring.


There is absolutely no way that Orgeron should even be in the top 10. There are at least a dozen names that have been thrown out there that are better options than he is.

1. Fisher/Herman
2. Chip Kelly
3. PJ Fleck
4. Larry Fedora
5. Bobby Petrino
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

1. Jimbo
2. Jimbo
3. Jimbo
4. Jimbo
5. Jimbo


And if that doesn't play out, who is your #6?
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6804 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

i'd rather roll with the continuity and recruiting we know Orgeron would bring.


Dude its more than just recruiting. Its building a team , hiring assistants etc etc .


Posted by tigersruledude
Member since Oct 2005
1718 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Then why did we fire Les Miles? You're basically saying that we hire another Miles by hiring Orgeron. Really terrible argument on your part. Too scared to take a chance so take guaranteed mediocrity.


We fired Miles because he was stuck in his way and did not move. This caused a lack of growth on offense and if it hadn't already would have effected offensive recruiting.

Orgeron is not Miles. With Orgeron we will have top notch recruiting. It remains to be seen what we will do with the offense but he has shown that he will adjust the offense to find what works. Nothing worked against Bama...we will see what it looks like going forward.

What i dont want to do is go get some guy who is just a hot name who we have no idea if he can recruit on a big time level or if he fits our school. I would love to go get the next Nick Saban. What i dont want is the next Will Muschamp.

I have no issue swinging for the fences with Fisher or Herman. I am completely unworried about Fisher. I am reasonably confident that Herman can do well here.

Guys like Fleck however are HUGE GAMBLES. In the last 15 years we have seen the University of Florida screw up a coaching hire TWICE. We have seen Michigan whiff several times. We have seen Texas hire a guy that may not make it past 3 seasons.

In Orgeron LSU would have a guy that they know can motivate, they know can recruit, they know can operate politically. They would also have a guy that they have some leverage with. He would pretty well have to go and hire an OC that operates differently. He might go get both Kiffin brothers...one for DL and one for OC. With ORgeron i know the risk. Its a risk that isn't likely very high. He isn't going to be Ole Miss Orgeron. Worst case scenario is in 3 yrs we go get somebody else and hand him a stacked with talent team.

Thats why i said...go after Jimbo....go after Herman...if they say no then hire O. I am fine with that.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

With Orgeron we will have top notch recruiting.


We can have that without Orgeron too. There are other coaches that can do this.

quote:

Orgeron is not Miles.


Good recruiter, motivator, not really an Xs and Os guy, tries to win games based on talent alone instead of developing a proper offensive gameplan to beat said team. Pretty sure they're fairly close to each other in many aspects except O was a failed HC and Miles wasn't.

quote:

he has shown that he will adjust the offense to find what works. Nothing worked against Bama...we will see what it looks like going forward.


This is a poor excuse for our offensive performance last night. Somehow Kent State and Western Kentucky could muster more offense than LSU against Bama, but O and Ensminger get to slide because it was Bama?

quote:

With ORgeron i know the risk. Its a risk that isn't likely very high. He isn't going to be Ole Miss Orgeron. Worst case scenario is in 3 yrs we go get somebody else and hand him a stacked with talent team.


Again just more of Miles is what you're asking for. I'd rather take the risk on someone else than just "settle" on O.
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
3124 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 4:37 pm to
Herman and especially Fleck are complete and utter crapshoots. They have proven nothing, zilch, nada. LSU needs a proven head coach, not the hot, new shiny toy.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
21406 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:10 pm to
And that's why Herman and Fleck are behind Jimbo. Why don't you share your own realistic top 5?
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1669 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:23 pm to
I agree

Jimbo
Herman
Fleck

If Chip Kelly is available I would put him there with Jimbo - definitely above Herman.

I would also approach Dabo Swinney

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37445 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:29 pm to
1. Jimbo
2. Kelly
3. Aranda
4. Herman
5. Fleck
6. Fedora/Fuente/Whittingham
9. Give up Football?
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
21406 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:56 pm to
Fuente is a solid HC, but I don't see him leaving VA Tech after 1 year.

Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56393 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:58 pm to
Orgerons foor is 10-25 that's as low as it can get
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 7:58 pm
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