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re: Louisiana supreme court claims priests do not have to report child abuse
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:34 pm to jbgleason
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:34 pm to jbgleason
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This case was about the sanctity of the confessional.
Exactly. The church puts the sanctity of the confessional over the safety of a child. You are exactly right to the point.
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:39 pm to BayouFann
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Cenla is a shithole
FIFY. Douche.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:39 pm to LucasP
Not saying I agree, but the difference is that it's a protected religious practice. IDK how they argue against separation of church and state though
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:40 pm to Tiger in NY
The only thing that bothers me in this case was that the child claimed to have reported this in the confession. She isn't committing a sin so why is this even being discussed in the confessional?
So I see both sides of that but if the seal of the confessional isn't protected, Pandora's box is wide open.
So I see both sides of that but if the seal of the confessional isn't protected, Pandora's box is wide open.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:43 pm to Golfer
Ideally this would be a problem the market would fix and parishioners would find another church. Sadly, I believe dogma is too strong for market forces to work.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:45 pm to Golfer
That's kinda confusing as well, my understanding was that confession is kept secret so as not to discourage people from confessing. But that logic doesn't really hold up here, it seems that the only purpose here is to absolve a priest from any responsibility.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:45 pm to Golfer
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So I see both sides of that but if the seal of the confessional isn't protected, Pandora's box is wide open
Mandated reporting has a very narrow scope. You arent required to report thefts, speeding, or even murder. Just child stuff.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:45 pm to colorchangintiger
What I find strange is if Fr. Bahyi was forced to testify. He's not even obligated to inform the court if said person went to confession.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:46 pm to colorchangintiger
capitalism is great bro but it can't solve everything.Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:50 pm to LucasP
I wasn't being serious
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:51 pm to LucasP
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capitalism is great bro but it can't solve everything.
Oh I know. Exhibit A: Religion is still a thing.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:52 pm to biglego
My B, but I stand by the question. How could a priest get different treatment from a shrink? Seems like they should have the same obligation to society.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:55 pm to Golfer
It's total horseshite.
ETA: It's a total fricking hypocrisy.
ETA: It's a total fricking hypocrisy.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:57 pm to LucasP
LucasP, you are exactly right in this case. I believe the woman making the claims has said that what she told the priest was not in confession. That pos Jeff Bayhi is using this BS argument to protect himself from not having to admit that he told a 14 year old girl to not tellanyone that George Charlet was molesting her. Oh and btw, Bayhi was friends with George Charlet, and Charlet was a big donor to Bayhi's church.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:03 pm to jbgleason
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I am sure you can't grasp the danger of allowing the government to put restrictions on our religious freedom.
Having sex with 14 year olds is not religious freedom.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:06 pm to Tiger in NY
Can't be compelled to break the seal of confession. That's the correct ruling.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:06 pm to Golfer
Because we usually force religion to operate within the confines of our secular laws and secular Western liberalism. This is an exception to that general rule.
I'd like to see a counselor or nurse challenge the compulsory reporting as violating their First Amendment rights by compelling speech. Either we mandate reporting to protect kids or we don't.
I'd like to see a counselor or nurse challenge the compulsory reporting as violating their First Amendment rights by compelling speech. Either we mandate reporting to protect kids or we don't.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:07 pm to Tiger in NY
Once again religion in this country acts like it's HIPAA or some shite.
Now, if we claimed not to know anything about a felony crime and it was proven we did, we would be an accessory and put in shackles.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:08 pm to boosiebadazz
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I'd like to see a counselor or nurse challenge the compulsory reporting as violating their First Amendment rights by compelling speech. Either we mandate reporting to protect kids or we don't.
Funny you don't mention attorney-client privilege...
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:09 pm to jbgleason
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I am sure you can't grasp the danger of allowing the government to put restrictions on our religious freedom.
frick this. If it involves child abuse there is no reason it should not be reported. I don't understand why they do not have to report it.
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