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Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:25 am to The Godfather
His resume is not as strong...correct. But to just vaguely say Strong > O is subjective and 100% opinion. I hate it when people say something is FACT when by definition it is not at all. Dude should have specified. That's all.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 7:26 am
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:33 am to Brazos
quote:It's not.
How is "Coach O being one of us" relevant to winning games?
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:37 am to Chimlim
quote:
Coach O being 'one of us' is not relevant as far as long term success is concerned
CLM was able to have long term success at LSU and I believe Coach O is a better coach, meaning he knows more about the game than CLM does. I believe Coach O will be a better recruiter than Miles. I also think he will hire assistants and allow them to coach and seems to be the type that is willing to adapt to keep winning. Judging a guy for his record at Ole Miss is like comparing apples to oranges. He did well at USC and so far has made LSU a much different team in 3 weeks.
If anyone believes CLM was an average coach at best surrounded by great talent there is no reason not to think Coach O can do the same if not better than Miles did over the long term.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:39 am to RealityTiger
Well strong has a far better resume as a head coach.
Like, in a different stratosphere better. Orgeron was an historic failure as a HC and if he wasn't from Louisiana absolutely no one would want him at LSU.
I don't want either though.
Like, in a different stratosphere better. Orgeron was an historic failure as a HC and if he wasn't from Louisiana absolutely no one would want him at LSU.
I don't want either though.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:41 am to Nix to Twillie
Explain to me in facts how Orgeron has a better record as a HC than Strong.
You can't
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:43 am to Futures Bleak
quote:I agree completely
Anything short of an SEC title and he shouldn't be in the top 3. LSU has a lot of talent and can't afford to screw this hire up.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:45 am to The Godfather
Look, between you and this other guy...stop with the name calling. We can agree to disagree. When you fall back on name calling because you and somebody else doesn't see eye to eye, it makes you look either a.) immature, or b.) not that intelligent, or c.) both.
The fact that y'all are calling others "retard" and "tiny brain" is complete irony, at best.
And I usually follow along and agree with your point of view on things and usually respect you as a poster. I'm gonna chalk it up to you just having a slip this morning. We all do from time to time. The other poster, I have no idea who he/she is but the same point applies to him/her about how ironic it is to call somebody a "tiny brain" when all we're doing is having a friendly discussion here about LSU football. Can you say over the top?
He inherited a team loaded with Petrino's recruits and was successful with them once they were upperclassmen. True, that's more than Orgeron has. But does that really scream red flags to you above and beyond what Orgeron has the potential to do at LSU?
The fact that y'all are calling others "retard" and "tiny brain" is complete irony, at best.
And I usually follow along and agree with your point of view on things and usually respect you as a poster. I'm gonna chalk it up to you just having a slip this morning. We all do from time to time. The other poster, I have no idea who he/she is but the same point applies to him/her about how ironic it is to call somebody a "tiny brain" when all we're doing is having a friendly discussion here about LSU football. Can you say over the top?
quote:
You are either too stupid to remember that he was the coach at Louisville before Texas or you know it doesnt fit your argument
he took a Louisville team that had 3 straight losing or .500 seasons and had only won 4 games the year before he got there and went
2010 7-6
2011 7-6
2012 11-2
2013 12-1
He inherited a team loaded with Petrino's recruits and was successful with them once they were upperclassmen. True, that's more than Orgeron has. But does that really scream red flags to you above and beyond what Orgeron has the potential to do at LSU?
quote::rimshot: Why? Because we don't agree on something? See point made above.
you need to change your username, because the last thing you are doing is living in reality
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:49 am to Brazos
I don't think it's relevant to winning games. However He has shown to be gritty and to the point at a minimum. Sure he's only had 2 cupcake teams to play, but they've done what they should have done with them. For me he doesn't have to win out to for me to root for him as coach. I don't think ANY coach could just come in mid season with the train wreck we had and inspire a championship. Get real, even Satan needs a yr or so.
Easy opponents or not, I still can appreciate fun play from a disciplined team. And a coach who can correct his mistake of giving them too much time off by chewing arse at half time. Our other coach never seemed to get that. If they come out and crap the bed and play like they did earlier this year, then I agree O isn't the man for the job. However if they come out and stomp crap this week, we'll probably hear how OleMiss was trending down and is now a cupcake team. It's easy to keep the team from scoring first downs when you can move the sticks willynilly. The boys are playing like I haven't seen them play in years and I'm enjoying watching them. And appreciate Coach O's candor and effort.
Easy opponents or not, I still can appreciate fun play from a disciplined team. And a coach who can correct his mistake of giving them too much time off by chewing arse at half time. Our other coach never seemed to get that. If they come out and crap the bed and play like they did earlier this year, then I agree O isn't the man for the job. However if they come out and stomp crap this week, we'll probably hear how OleMiss was trending down and is now a cupcake team. It's easy to keep the team from scoring first downs when you can move the sticks willynilly. The boys are playing like I haven't seen them play in years and I'm enjoying watching them. And appreciate Coach O's candor and effort.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:49 am to Futures Bleak
quote:
Explain to me in facts how Orgeron has a better record as a HC than Strong.
But that's not what you said. You said Strong>O. As in Strong is better than O. Which is not factual. It's opinion. You learned it in 3rd grade. Be more specific next time, hoss.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:53 am to Nix to Twillie
Strong > O is factual, actually. There's this thing called "Google" and through this thing you can look up coaching records for both Strong and O.
I suggest you do that
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:54 am to RealityTiger
You denied facts so I called you out on your ineptness. Get over it.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:55 am to Brazos
If he does well during this 8 game audition, he deserves consideration.
That being said, the gumps used the same "Alabama man" mentality on a few hires and it blew up in their face. All candidates should be evaluated on the same criteria. Being "from here" should carry very little to no weight.
That being said, the gumps used the same "Alabama man" mentality on a few hires and it blew up in their face. All candidates should be evaluated on the same criteria. Being "from here" should carry very little to no weight.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 8:18 am
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:55 am to Futures Bleak
I would bet $1,000 on a handshake with you (if I knew you) that Charlie Strong is not the head coach of LSU next year. And I don't usually do that because I believe in paying up a bet.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:56 am to Brazos
It doesn't. But it helps people like him so they want him.
Are you too dense to see that?
Are you too dense to see that?
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:57 am to nola000
quote:
One caveat though. Having a coach that is from Louisiana and that was an LSU fan before he became head coach means that no one will ever really have to worry about him skipping town for his alma mater, hometown/favorite team(Urban Meyer) or the pros(Saban).
This!!
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:57 am to Futures Bleak
quote:Hence, irony. I'm gonna go with you're in your late teen's/early to mid 20's.
You denied facts so I called you out on your ineptness. Get over it.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 8:04 am to TexasTiger89
He understood the frustrations because he knows football, not because he's from south louisiana.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 8:04 am to Futures Bleak
quote:
Strong > O is factual, actually. There's this thing called "Google" and through this thing you can look up coaching records for both Strong and O.
Saying Strong's RECORD, which you made no mention of in your vague drive-by post, is factual. Simply saying Strong is a better coach than O has no factual bearing whatsoever and you're old enough to know that. It's like saying coke is better than Pepsi because I drink coke more. Keep up, buddy.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 8:38 am to Brazos
I like O because he is making it fun, fun to watch the sidelines, fun and open to get reports on practices and injuries, and fun to see players hit the field, last week we saw Dillon on the field and not so much Ferguson. So we are either playing kids that worked in practice or playing kids we decide give us an advantage against an individual opponent.
I am fine with competing for an SEC championship and having fun with a coach that is never leaving and can recruit his arse off.
Recruiting is so under appreciated.
Look at Miles, by most accounts now he was a football moron, and he won a crap ton.
Saban is master no doubt, but give him Syracuses lineup and see what he does in the West, or States.
I am fine with competing for an SEC championship and having fun with a coach that is never leaving and can recruit his arse off.
Recruiting is so under appreciated.
Look at Miles, by most accounts now he was a football moron, and he won a crap ton.
Saban is master no doubt, but give him Syracuses lineup and see what he does in the West, or States.
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