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wood working guys; cypress staining question

Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:50 pm
Posted by lsuCJ5
Holly Springs, NC
Member since Nov 2012
1056 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:50 pm
I'm in the process of picking color to re stain my cabinets. I did one coat of stain last night and this mysterious black spot appeared. They did not have a knot in this area or any other stain or damage. How to remove it and how to keep it from happening on other cabinet doors?

This post was edited on 10/13/16 at 7:58 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
62760 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:54 pm to
what kind of wood?
Woods like cherry, pine and birch can become blotchy when stained, unless you use a sealer before staining.
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3769 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 1:04 pm to
I like it FWIW
Posted by lsuCJ5
Holly Springs, NC
Member since Nov 2012
1056 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 1:13 pm to
it is cypress. and I did not sand all the way through the varnish that is on it now (see the cabinet door behind the stained one). I thought about the sealer, so I will have to seal everything before re staining?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 1:27 pm to
Honestly, i think it looks great like that. Are these new doors or doors you sanded down?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 1:32 pm to
Looks much better than the one behind it. Looks natural.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46125 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1598 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 1:55 pm to
Wouldn't you start with a conditioner?
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 1:56 pm to
I like it.

Softer wood and not as well sanded wood will absorb more stain.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12930 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:00 pm to
First problem could be that you left the original finish on. I just refinished a piece, and anywhere that the original finish did not come completely off was darker and just had a different, spotty appearance to it.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
22726 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:06 pm to
When your restaining wood you need to take it down to bare wood. That is from putting stain on varnish.

Those cabinets doors look to be glazed, if so..... good luck getting it off.


If it is just a coat of poly use a heat gun and a scraper and it will peel right off. Sand down to the bare wood with finishing with a 220 grit. Apply a pre-stain conditioner, apply stain, apply polyurethane or shellac
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
12312 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:57 pm to
^^^ this

and don't over sand too smooth which is easy w/even 220 if you go at it very long. Have had bad results not using pre-conditioner as the wood doesn't have to all be the same.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
62760 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:02 pm to
my cypress bench thread

took me about 20 hours to sand all the polyurethane off this piece of cypress.

didn't stain just used some oils to brighten
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85077 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:05 pm to
the dark variations looks awesome

keep it
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:14 pm to
Agree with salmon, the problem is making the rest of them look like that as well.
Posted by lsuCJ5
Holly Springs, NC
Member since Nov 2012
1056 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 7:57 am to
I hung the door back last night. The door that is open is another shade we tried. Both doors have 2 coats of stain. We both would like for the wood to be darker. Anyone have any suggestions of a brand and or shade to try to make it darker? Any possibility a gel stain would work? When we applied the second coat to both doors, it made little difference.

Posted by Fat Tire
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
438 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 11:13 am to
If you put a coat of shellac down first it helps with uniform stain

Waterlox then shellac gives a good finish. If you want dark just use dark shellac and you can apply coats until you get to the shade your looking for.
Posted by rduple2
Belle Chasse
Member since Oct 2009
259 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 12:22 pm to
Staining Cypress

Never done this, but I'm sure these guys have done an awful lot of cypress work.
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