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re: The Roots mini-series is gonna make work aqward af tomorrow

Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:23 am to
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:23 am to
well that's quite easy to say when most of you can trace your history back 5-10 generations.


A few years ago I tried to get on ancestry.com and ended up crying becuase after 2 days i just couldn't find anything on record past my great grandmother.


I'm not a race baiter, my father is mixed, i'm mixed but i'm sorry if black people learning about their ancestry makes you feel uncomfortable or awkward 4 days out of 365 a year.


There are African Americans, and by African Americans, I mean at least 90% of them, that don't even know what part of the biggest fricking continent on earth, they came from. And you want them to "not watch roots" becuase "the need to get over it" frick off.


This, this here, is white privilege. Not you getting a job that i think i should have gotten. You taking for granted shite like, your ancestry. Knowing where you came from. Knowing where you came from, who your great grand parents are, where they came from, rather or not they were even slaves to begin with, is not a privilege afforded to African Americans, at least the vast majority of them, especially the ones from the south.


Maybe more African Americans would get off their fricking arse collecting EBT food stamps if they realized just how hard their ancestors worked, what they had to endure and go through just to put them in a position to where they didn't have to worry about getting whipped with a barbed belt if they didn't feel like going to work that day.


White people, think everything is about them. Everything isn't about you. Black people, at least they shouldn't, look at Roots and think about how much they hate white people, that's your white guilt talking. They should look at roots and appreciate just what their great great great great great grandparents had to ensure to put them in a position they are in today.


Imagine living a life knowing that the only silver lining in your life, the only possible thing you can live for that's worth a shite, is that one day one of your grand-kids can not be a slave. Imagine being relegated to cattle, watching your women get raped, your brothers killed and worked to death, and the only thing you can look forward to is that one day, maybe 5 years, maybe 25 years, maybe 50 years form now, one of my grand-kids won't have to endure what i'm enduring now. That's pretty heroic and fricked up at the same time and something I can step back and appreciate. so frick you.
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Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33184 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:46 am to
How do you feel about Snoops rant? He literally doesnt want folks to learn about that suffering.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263218 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:49 am to
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Maybe more African Americans would get off their fricking arse collecting EBT food stamps if they realized just how hard their ancestors worked, what they had to endure and go through just to put them in a position to where they didn't have to worry about getting whipped with a barbed belt if they didn't feel like going to work that day.


This doesn't appear to be the message they are getting.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Member since Mar 2008
66562 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:53 am to
Nice copy/paste.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:03 am to


Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
143087 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:26 am to
quote:

well that's quite easy to say when most of you can trace your history back 5-10 generations.

A few years ago I tried to get on ancestry.com and ended up crying becuase after 2 days i just couldn't find anything on record past my great grandmother.

I'm not a race baiter, my father is mixed, i'm mixed but i'm sorry if black people learning about their ancestry makes you feel uncomfortable or awkward 4 days out of 365 a year.

There are African Americans, and by African Americans, I mean at least 90% of them, that don't even know what part of the biggest fricking continent on earth, they came from. And you want them to "not watch roots" becuase "the need to get over it" frick off.

This, this here, is white privilege. Not you getting a job that i think i should have gotten. You taking for granted shite like, your ancestry. Knowing where you came from. Knowing where you came from, who your great grand parents are, where they came from, rather or not they were even slaves to begin with, is not a privilege afforded to African Americans, at least the vast majority of them, especially the ones from the south.

Maybe more African Americans would get off their fricking arse collecting EBT food stamps if they realized just how hard their ancestors worked, what they had to endure and go through just to put them in a position to where they didn't have to worry about getting whipped with a barbed belt if they didn't feel like going to work that day.

White people, think everything is about them. Everything isn't about you. Black people, at least they shouldn't, look at Roots and think about how much they hate white people, that's your white guilt talking. They should look at roots and appreciate just what their great great great great great grandparents had to ensure to put them in a position they are in today.

Imagine living a life knowing that the only silver lining in your life, the only possible thing you can live for that's worth a shite, is that one day one of your grand-kids can not be a slave. Imagine being relegated to cattle, watching your women get raped, your brothers killed and worked to death, and the only thing you can look forward to is that one day, maybe 5 years, maybe 25 years, maybe 50 years form now, one of my grand-kids won't have to endure what i'm enduring now. That's pretty heroic and fricked up at the same time and something I can step back and appreciate. so frick you.
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Posted by Stud Bud
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Member since Sep 2015
6958 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:45 am to
quote:

well that's quite easy to say when most of you can trace your history back 5-10 generations. A few years ago I tried to get on ancestry.com and ended up crying becuase after 2 days i just couldn't find anything on record past my great grandmother. I'm not a race baiter, my father is mixed, i'm mixed but i'm sorry if black people learning about their ancestry makes you feel uncomfortable or awkward 4 days out of 365 a year. There are African Americans, and by African Americans, I mean at least 90% of them, that don't even know what part of the biggest fricking continent on earth, they came from. And you want them to "not watch roots" becuase "the need to get over it" frick off. This, this here, is white privilege. Not you getting a job that i think i should have gotten. You taking for granted shite like, your ancestry. Knowing where you came from. Knowing where you came from, who your great grand parents are, where they came from, rather or not they were even slaves to begin with, is not a privilege afforded to African Americans, at least the vast majority of them, especially the ones from the south. Maybe more African Americans would get off their fricking arse collecting EBT food stamps if they realized just how hard their ancestors worked, what they had to endure and go through just to put them in a position to where they didn't have to worry about getting whipped with a barbed belt if they didn't feel like going to work that day. White people, think everything is about them. Everything isn't about you. Black people, at least they shouldn't, look at Roots and think about how much they hate white people, that's your white guilt talking. They should look at roots and appreciate just what their great great great great great grandparents had to ensure to put them in a position they are in today. Imagine living a life knowing that the only silver lining in your life, the only possible thing you can live for that's worth a shite, is that one day one of your grand-kids can not be a slave. Imagine being relegated to cattle, watching your women get raped, your brothers killed and worked to death, and the only thing you can look forward to is that one day, maybe 5 years, maybe 25 years, maybe 50 years form now, one of my grand-kids won't have to endure what i'm enduring now. That's pretty heroic and fricked up at the same time and something I can step back and appreciate. so frick you.



Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9142 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:27 am to
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vengeanceofrain


Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59502 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:42 am to
quote:

vengeanceofrain




Melt hard, brah.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3946 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 4:31 am to
quote:

well that's quite easy to say when most of you can trace your history back 5-10 generations.


I'm adopted. I can't trace mine back to my parents. I'm also not white so I can tell you this with a 100% clear conscience....
If you'd stop being so fricking dramatic and live in the present, you wouldn't be so fricking miserable.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125547 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 4:31 am to
quote:

A few years ago I tried to get on ancestry.com and ended up crying becuase after 2 days i just couldn't find anything on record past my great grandmother.


Well that sucks

my parents even got the DNA test.

My mom traced her side back to County Durham in England and my Dad side goes back to Ireland.

I am one hell of a fricked up mix.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
22365 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 6:27 am to
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African Americans, I mean at least 90% of them, that don't even know what part of the biggest fricking continent on earth,

Asian lives matter
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
32025 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 6:44 am to
I agree with a lot of your rant. The real issue is that there are idiots on both sides, at the present moment though the idiots on the "progressive" side actually get their opinions listened to.
In reality neither sides idiots should get a voice
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4396 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:55 am to
quote:


There are African Americans, and by African Americans, I mean at least 90% of them, that don't even know what part of the biggest fricking continent on earth, they came from.


What's even worse is some don't even know that Asia is the biggest fricking continent on earth.....frickin white people
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
23222 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:59 am to
Holy shite people actually feel this way.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:05 am to
quote:

after 2 days i just couldn't find anything on record past my great grandmother.


Me either. And I'm of Irish descent.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83686 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:07 am to
quote:

This, this here, is white privilege. Not you getting a job that i think i should have gotten. You taking for granted shite like, your ancestry. Knowing where you came from. Knowing where you came from, who your great grand parents are, where they came from, rather or not they were even slaves to begin with, is not a privilege afforded to African Americans, at least the vast majority of them, especially the ones from the south.


I can't trace my family ancestry back either FWIW

has nothing to do with "white privilege" but more to do with social classes and since my ancestors were poor, they didn't really have much documentation
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56691 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:32 am to
quote:

Imagine the only thing you can look forward to is that one day, maybe 5 years, maybe 25 years, maybe 50 years form now, one of my grand-kids won't have to endure what i'm enduring now
.

Sorry, I was too busy imagining what it was like stepping off a landing craft knowing I was going to get shot like all my friends. But doing it anyway because that is how much I loved the freedom and opportunity of America.

I would never have imagined that knowing ones great great great grandmother would trump that to the point that a large number of an entire generation would never appreciate the American opportunity.

You know, I imagined shite that had something to do with Memorial Day
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 8:42 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Imagine living a life knowing that the only silver lining in your life, the only possible thing you can live for that's worth a shite, is that one day one of your grand-kids can not be a slave. Imagine being relegated to cattle, watching your women get raped, your brothers killed and worked to death, and the only thing you can look forward to is that one day, maybe 5 years, maybe 25 years, maybe 50 years form now, one of my grand-kids won't have to endure what i'm enduring now.


So you are enduring all these hardships yourself? I'd like to help, can I send you some money or something to make you and your people feel better?
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9291 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:14 am to
I get a lot of what vengeanceofrain is saying. In particular, I think he's right about how hard it must have been to live your days hoping that your children and grandchildren wouldn't have to endure life as a slave. I think that's something important for us all to think about when it comes to imagining life as a slave.

But... this:

quote:

This, this here, is white privilege. Not you getting a job that i think i should have gotten. You taking for granted shite like, your ancestry. Knowing where you came from. Knowing where you came from, who your great grand parents are, where they came from, rather or not they were even slaves to begin with, is not a privilege afforded to African Americans, at least the vast majority of them, especially the ones from the south.


Is nonsense, and should be labeled as such. I know exactly where my mom's family and dad's family are from. One side is from a city in Spain, the other, from a tiny village in France. I can point both places out on a map. Both sides of my family have been in America for close to 300 years. I gain zero benefit from this knowledge. It does not affect my everyday life in any way. I'm just here. I'm the same as anyone who arrived here in America two years ago.

In fact, if we look back just two generations, both sides of my family lived in poverty. They were Americans, and they had been here hundreds of years. They knew where they came from, as far as Europe was concerned. The knowledge did them no good as they scraped out a living as farmers and trappers in rural Louisiana.

You don't get a secret bag of gold because you can prove your ancestors came from a village just south of Strasbourg, on the border of France and Germany. I take zero pride in that. I do, however, take pride in being American, which my father also recognized. He broke the cycle of poverty my family was in, and his children all have college degrees and professional jobs now. I owe everything I am to him, and he is just one generation behind me.
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