re: Roy King is suing LSU

I am suggesting that music program is one of the welfare mommas of the university

Tough cuts hurt. I am one of these jerk in mr. Holland ' s Opus

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you guys didn't read my post, I said that I know people in the SOM, but even the average professor won't know everything going on. I personally don't remember the stories (I wasn't told much anyway) and they really don't matter now because everything is public, but there was talk about this in the fall and they were waiting for the athletic bands to finish out.

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Well, actually, we DID read your post, and this is what you said:

"Roy King was doing some bad stuff that was going to get him fired eventually, LSU just waited till now to do it."

There was no qualifier attached to this. You didn't say that "I suspect that . . ." or "There's a possibility that . . ." or even "I've been told that . . ." No siree, your statement leaves no room for speculation. You acted as though you KNOW there was bad stuff going on. But NOW you offer us this weak-assed excuse.

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But all I was passing on was that they knew about this stuff is the fall, I don't know specific details, because 1) It doesn't directly affect me, 2) it was none of my business to know the specifics.

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If you're going to make vague and suggestive statements about knowing that someone was "doing bad stuff" you had best be prepared to back them up with facts. If you can't do that, you need to let everyone know the truth: that you don't really know anything, but you're more than happy to spread rumors and innuendo with the intent of smearing someone's character. If it were me, I think I'd be concerned that I might find myself looking down the business end of a libel suit.

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Absolutely correct about the funding argument.

Thanks for posting this about the ratio of non-music major marching band members. Several Engineers, doctors, lawyers, and pilots, etc. were also former members of Tiger Band.

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let me say one last thing, I'm like 1 against 100 in agreeing with the Roy Firing.

The SOM has really been struggling with money, I know this personally and it's probably not that hard to figure out just by doing some slight digging. If tiger band can help keep the SOM afloat I say good. Keep in mind no SOM no tigerband, sure they are separate budgets, but without the SOM there is no way you have a tigerband. So more money to the SOM is a good thing.

but again I believe the reports found in the audit are true and are something that tells me he needed to be fired.

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That isn't true. The cadet band Preceded the SOM. TV does not need the SOM to survive. When I was at LSU, the SOM didn't need TBto survive, either. However, during these times, not only does the SOM need TB, it also needs some ot funds, which is why they tried to black male Roy into redirecting some of the donor funds.

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you have no idea what you are talking. LSU is a solid school of music and is one of the best in the country. You will not find near the level of talent in other smaller liberal arts schools. The simple fact that LSU hires Eastman graduates is a sign that they are a top tier school. (There may be more but I know of at-least 3 professors who have a doctorate from Eastman School of music, which is maybe the top music school in the country.)

I don't know where LSU ranks in terms of music schools but it is up there.

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LSUs SOM was (key word) one of the best in the country. When I was there, the number of students in the SOM was over 400. Now it's barely 100. Which is where the financial issue affects it. They no longer have the student base to support the number of staff members on payroll. This is part of the reason they want control of the TB funds.

Looks like there are some folks who have recently joined this thread and are rehashing - which is a good thing, really.

Anyone who has been following the bouncing ball (following reporting, reading documents, and -in some cases, perhaps- communicating with named players in this saga) knows that:

1. This situation is trumped-up BS in an effort to gain control of a considerable amount of funds ($1.5MM/yr. according to one court document). Whether or not Roy King is competent to be TGBFTL director or whether TGBFTL is performing to some imaginary or proscribed level is just a side show meant to distract.

2. The vast majority of the funding over which this fight is obviously about comes from donors -directly or indirectly- who support football game day events and traditions. This is not a group that, by definition, will necessarily be convinced that their contributed monies are just as well spent on a much-needed bassoonist or a soprano vocal major (even if she's really hot). Colorado is not even in the same hemisphere when it comes to college football fans so, whatever TQ 'accomplished' there will certainly not apply at LSU. Bottom line: these much sought-after funds will significantly dry up if not used for their intended purpose. Bunch of dadgum morons who can't see that.

3. An Opinion: I'm not convinced that the actual band members are heavily invested or educated in this story. After all, it has been timed to coincide with the end of the school year, which has involved finals and move out plans. That's going to be pretty much the focus for the majority of TGBFTL members. Therefore, I would be very surprised to see any action from that group coalescing next fall, or at least from that group in its entirety.