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Most Valuable Individual Baseball Player?
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:11 pm
What is considered the most valuable?
A pitcher as dominant as Clayton Kershaw? OR a CF like Mike Trout?
Or even a catcher like Buster Posey? I get that pitcher is likely the most valuable position. But a guy like Kershaw only pitches every four or five days.
So wouldn't a player like Posey or Trout be more valuable?
A pitcher as dominant as Clayton Kershaw? OR a CF like Mike Trout?
Or even a catcher like Buster Posey? I get that pitcher is likely the most valuable position. But a guy like Kershaw only pitches every four or five days.
So wouldn't a player like Posey or Trout be more valuable?
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:16 pm to WicKed WayZ
quote:while I think Bryce harper is the most valuable player in baseball, I think this talking point is a little overrated when pitchers have so much more control over the game they play in. I think Kershaw will face as many batters as the majority of positional players have at bats
But a guy like Kershaw only pitches every four or five days.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:17 pm to WestCoastAg
If I need to win one game, I'd rather have a dominant pitcher. If I need to win a division, id rather have a Bryce harper type player
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:20 pm to WicKed WayZ
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What is considered the most valuable?
What kind of value are we talking about?
From an everyday play standpoint, marketability?
I'd argue (pretty easily) it's Bryce Harper. He's young, dominant, good looking (no homo), plays every day at an MVP level for a competing team.
Very very valuable for the Nationals. He helps them win games. But he also gives legitimacy to the franchise whos brief history in Washington is rooted in mediocrity. He puts the team on national media, he sells tickets, he sells jerseys.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:22 pm to WestCoastAg
A catcher who can control the other teams running game, and has complete control of a staff, is worth their weight in Gold.
While Molina is aging, and his bat is slowed, when he's behind the plate, he completely controls the staff and game. It's no shocker, that the Cardinals have had very good pitching staffs and stats, with him behind the plate.
While Molina is aging, and his bat is slowed, when he's behind the plate, he completely controls the staff and game. It's no shocker, that the Cardinals have had very good pitching staffs and stats, with him behind the plate.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:24 pm to WicKed WayZ
Harper is going to get a 450 million dollar contract from the Yankees
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:31 pm to WicKed WayZ
I think it depends on the teams need at that position, but like a poster above said, if I need to win one game, give me kershaw. If I need to win a division, give me Harper/Trout/Posey.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:49 pm to WicKed WayZ
threads like this make me miss Pudge so much
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:52 pm to Hot Carl
quote:No question
Bonds '01-'04
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:56 pm to WicKed WayZ
I'd go with a dominant pitcher in the playoffs. Very valuable to have a guy who is essentially a lock to win 2 games in a 7 game series
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:59 pm to Patton
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Harper is going to get a 450 million dollar contract from the Yankees
This is inevitable. Harper has a huge ego since he's been a super phenom since he was about 16. There's a certain fit about a guy with his ego signing the biggest contract ever with the New York Yankees. Not to mention, that stadium is built for him.
Of course Mike Trout is from New Jersey and a free agent a year later at the prime age of 29. The Yankees will probably sign them both.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 7:05 pm to WicKed WayZ
A great position player is more valuable than a great pitcher... especially if that position player plays a position where there are so few good ones.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 7:09 pm to WicKed WayZ
Mike Trout and it isn't even close.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 7:25 pm to Patton
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Harper is going to get a 450 million dollar contract from the Yankees
And it will be the first time they offer a mega deal to a player who won't eventually be too old during the contract.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 7:41 pm to SwaggerCopter
Someone should really create a metric that shows how valuable each player is in terms of wins a player is worth versus a replacement player.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:18 pm to WestCoastAg
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I think Kershaw will face as many batters as the majority of positional players have at bats
A pitcher will face more batters than a batter gets plate appearances. In 2015, Manny Machado led baseball with 713 plate appearances and Dallas Keuchel faced 911 hitters. To say that batters are automatically more valuable than hitters is a myth. Hitters spread their offensive impact out while pitchers bunch theirs every fifth game. You could easily argue that a pitcher has more situations (batter vs. pitcher) where they are one of the two primary factors in the plate appearance.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:32 pm to Seeing Grey
quote:They can call it WAPIWVARP, what do you think?
Someone should really create a metric that shows how valuable each player is in terms of wins a player is worth versus a replacement player.
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