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re: Should basketball coaches be able to decline free throws?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:48 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:48 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
I'm of the position that the defense shouldn't be allowed to commit a foul in order to put the offense in a less advantageous position.
Im in a position that the offense shouldn't be given a free pass/do over because one or several players can't make an uncontested 15 ft set shot with no clock.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 10:49 am
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:48 am to CubsFanBudMan
I bet our coach does.
Bowers? No thank you, we decline.
Bowers? No thank you, we decline.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:49 am to CubsFanBudMan
quote:
Sometimes using the full shot clock and not scoring is better than making 2 free throws with no time coming off the clock.
If a team is so scared to shoot free throws you would see teams down by 10 start fouling halfway through 2nd half with no fear or other team pulling away. Foul until you get the turnover. Games would take foreeeeever
It's a free shot..all you have to do is make it...its a reward. If you are so bad at free throws then its up to the coach to have the correct players in there. Pressure is part of the game.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:49 am to lsupride87
quote:It isn't because they are different sports with different rules and strategies.
That is the exact same scenario. So stupid
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:49 am to Kracka
quote:In my scenario I posted the team does make the free throws. If you are up 1 you can make both free throws and the other team now has a chance to tie
Im in a position of the offense shouldn't be given a free pass/do over because one or several players can't make an uncontested 15 ft set shot with no clock.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:50 am to Kracka
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You just keep giving Team A possession of the ball to rinse and repeat over and over, the advantage goes to team A because there is no incentive to shoot the ball. Just keep getting fouled, shot clock is reset and its the same shite over and over and over. There is likely no change of possession unless team A stupidly decides to shoot the ball.
Why should team B get an opportunity to possess the ball? Fouling just to get possession is unfair to team A if you want to go down that road.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:50 am to Kracka
quote:
Im in a position that the offense shouldn't be given a free pass/do over because one or several players can't make an uncontested 15 ft set shot with no clock.
You mean a team shouldnt have the most basic skill down to win a game? Nonsense
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:50 am to PearlJam
quote:No, it is a perfect analogy. In basketball you can commit a foul in order to better your chances of winning, even if the other team makes their free throws. That is completely illoogical
It isn't because they are different sports with different rules and strategies.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:51 am to fightingtiger2335
quote:
If a team is so scared to shoot free throws you would see teams down by 10 start fouling halfway through 2nd half with no fear or other team pulling away. Foul until you get the turnover. Games would take foreeeeever
Blatt did this in one of his last 2 games with the Cavs. Put the Cavs up by double digits.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:51 am to StrongBackWeakMind
What? I admitted my mistake. Didn't know that football rule like I thought I did, therefore the point I was trying to make along those lines was invalid. I can admit being wrong about something. Idk what else you want
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:51 am to LNCHBOX
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Why should team B get an opportunity to possess the ball? Fouling just to get possession is unfair to team A if you want to go down that road.
team still has to get a rebound or the other team scored. ARe we taking all strategy out of sports and calling it unfair now? Sports would be boring as frick
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:51 am to lsupride87
quote:You could foul them and only give them a chance at 2. These are all strategy calls within the rules that have risk reward components nothing wrong with it.
. If you are up 1 you can make both free throws and the other team now has a chance to tie
The only real issue is teams doing it all game because a player is so bad at free throws, giving him free, uncontested shots is a good strategy. The problem isn't really with the rules.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:52 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:To rub your nose in it.
Idk what else you want
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:52 am to lsupride87
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If you are up 1 you can make both free throws and the other team now has a chance to tie
Then you play defense. It's a game. If you over regulate it, then you start to make it scripted. Takes away from the purity of the game IMO.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:52 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:Think about it. You and I are down 8 with a minute to go. Our style of play instantly changes to BALLS TO THE WALL errant defense because the only thing that helps us is a steal, and a foul doesn't hurt us (beyond individual foul trouble) since all it does is stop the clock when the team declines the free throws. It would make the end of the game longer and worse than it already is. If I'm beat on an inbounds pass, all I have to do is grab a jersey, and then we just reset the whole play, and no time has run off the clock.
Why would they keep fouling?
Interesting idea, and I like the cut of the jib of anyone who thinks along these lines, but the result of such a rule would be catastrophic.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:53 am to PearlJam
quote:Which is now just as illogical. We are now once again giving a team an advantage by fouling
You could foul them and only give them a chance at 2
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:53 am to lsupride87
quote:In football, there are times when you can allow a team to score a td and it betters your odds of winning. It is a part of the sport and the strategy in basketball.
No, it is a perfect analogy. In basketball you can commit a foul in order to better your chances of winning, even if the other team makes their free throws. That is completely illoogical
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:53 am to JScoop8
quote:Triple bonus. After a certain amount of fouls, two shots and the ball.
I have more of an issue when a team is up 3 and they foul the other team so they can only have a chance at 2 points. That scenario seems more unfair to me. Denying the other team a chance to attempt a 3 to tie by fouling, but I don't know how you could fix it either.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:53 am to fightingtiger2335
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eam still has to get a rebound or the other team scored. ARe we taking all strategy out of sports and calling it unfair now? Sports would be boring as frick
Kracka started with the labeling of things as unfair. And the obvious answer to this is to not foul. The shot clock will run out and you'll have your opportunity to get the ball back. Kracka conveniently ignored that possibility in his post. The whole point is to get rid of the intentional fouling late in games.
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