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re: New Orleans is finished by 2050 per non-partisan climate control folks

Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27242 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:37 pm to
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And the Netherlands should already be under water as well


The Dutch have the political will to plan longer than the next election. Our politicians are crippled by running for the next election and not making the decisions that need to be made.

The Dutch literally have plans that span 100s of years. People there had the balls to say, "things aren't going to get any better, so we have to make sacrifices now to save our grandkids."

I worked on the Dutch Dialogues and Urban Water Plan. The Dutch are an awesome people that don't put up with bullshite. They recognize the problem and get to work despite what the vocal fringe thinks. They literally laugh at our political inability to get anything done regarding the existential threats to Southern Louisiana.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27242 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:43 pm to
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the Dutch have been keeping half their country dry for a thousand years so we can keep NOLA & south La dry if we want.



Not true at all. The Dutch screwed themselves by draining out water and building dikes for a thousand years, causing massive subsidence. After a series of devastating floods, most recently in 1953 that killed 1800 people, they figured out the problem and got to work on Delta Works.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:25 pm to
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non-partisan climate control folks


I was just told today that China gets a new coal-fired power plant built every 5 days. They had some trouble last year, and are supposed to get 400 online this year. India is on the same track, but about 1/4 the pace.



And us idiots are worried about a Jetta putting out 0.000023 micron particles instead of 0.000022 micron particles. Jesus, we're stupid

Side note: Germans pay 12x more for energy than we do because they want their coal plants to be "clean". We are purposely heading in that direction
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18921 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:52 pm to
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New Orleans is finished by 2050 per non-partisan climate control folks


Now where have I heard something similar to this before ...... oh, yeah, same source but 30 years ago and they were saying it would be under by 2020.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124883 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:54 pm to
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Now where have I heard something similar to this before ...... oh, yeah, same source but 30 years ago and they were saying it would be under by 2020.


Wait, I thought everything was going to freeze from global cooling?
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29478 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:55 pm to
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100 bucks it isn't


Id put more than that.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 3:12 pm to
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Germans pay 12x more for energy than we do


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Jesus, I'm stupid



Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2634 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 3:38 pm to
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if you want to deny that it is getting warmer and this is not a threat to future generations, then you've been brainwashed.
the earth's climate has been changing since the dawn of time,whether it's cooling down or warming up at this point is up for debate,but if you think humans have caused and/or altered this,then you sir have been brainwashed.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 4:06 pm to
Man, you really bought the facts there

quote:

whether it's cooling down or warming up at this point is up for debate,


Is it?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57578 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 4:25 pm to
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RoboCop: NOLA. I'd watch that.


If anything to hear the fake "N'awlins" accent from a robot. "Your move, cher!"
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1919 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 4:49 pm to
As an uniformed observer, this type of thing is why I don't trust the "models" people use for climate change. Are you seriously telling me that all of Louisiana South of Baton Rouge will be under water and Biloxi will only lose US-90?

Not to diminish the need to address coastal erosion and the effect of the levees in accelerating that process, but the above difference just doesn't seem likely.

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35577 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 4:51 pm to
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Dont care about Miami as long as it doesnt get as far north as Orlando. No fricking up disney world.

Orlando falling into the sea is one of the few positives of global warming.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67275 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 5:01 pm to
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New Orleans is finished by 2050 per non-partisan climate control folks


Now where have I heard something similar to this before ...... oh, yeah, same source but 30 years ago and they were saying it would be under by 2020.


In their defense, it was underwater in 2005
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 6:13 pm to
According to experts decades ago, NOLA was supposed to be eroded away by 2000. NOLA may have higher levees, but it ain't going anywhere in the next 150 years.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 6:48 pm to
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non-partisan
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climate control

Does not compute.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2782 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 6:48 pm to
Here are 18 examples of the spectacularly wrong predictions made around 1970 when the “green holy day” (aka Earth Day) started:

1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

2. “We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.

3. The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”

4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

6. Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”

7. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.

8. Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”

9. In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

10. Ecologist Kenneth Watt told Time that, “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

11. Barry Commoner predicted that decaying organic pollutants would use up all of the oxygen in America’s rivers, causing freshwater fish to suffocate.

12. Paul Ehrlich chimed in, predicting in his 1970 that “air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Ehrlich sketched a scenario in which 200,000 Americans would die in 1973 during “smog disasters” in New York and Los Angeles.

13. Paul Ehrlich warned in the May 1970 issue of Audubon that DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons “may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945.” Ehrlich warned that Americans born since 1946…now had a life expectancy of only 49 years, and he predicted that if current patterns continued this expectancy would reach 42 years by 1980, when it might level out.

14. Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”

15. Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated the humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.

16. Sen. Gaylord Nelson wrote in Look that, “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

17. In 1975, Paul Ehrlich predicted that “since more than nine-tenths of the original tropical rainforests will be removed in most areas within the next 30 years or so, it is expected that half of the organisms in these areas will vanish with it.”

18. Kenneth Watt warned about a pending Ice Age in a speech. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99732 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 6:58 pm to
fricked either way...so unchecked "pollution" for me.

BTW..."non-partisans" would not call CO2 "pollution."
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20649 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 7:06 pm to
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RoboCop: NOLA. I'd watch that


I'd buy THAT for a dollar!
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10420 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 7:12 pm to
Well on the upside my property will eventually become beach front.
Posted by Gevans17
Member since Dec 2007
1135 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 7:37 pm to
quote "Pumps are great, but they are worthless if there is no one there to operate them. I'm looking at you Jefferson Parish"

We are looking at you Aaron. Broussard!
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