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If we change gun control, how do we change it?
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:45 am
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:45 am
What would you change about gun control? Also, if you're fine with the gun control laws right now, let your voice be heard! What's your opinions on this?
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:47 am to John88
The genie is out of the bottle, no controlling it now. The only option we've got is to develop cheap and fashionable Kevlar.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:47 am to John88
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What would you change about gun control?
Absolutely nothing.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:47 am to John88
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What would you change about gun control? Also, if you're fine with the gun control laws right now, let your voice be heard! What's your opinions on this?
Everyone, come have your say, John88 is listening
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:47 am to John88
My opinion is if everyone had a gun there would be a whole lot less crime.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:51 am to John88
Here's how I would change the gun issues:
End the war on drugs, end the wars accross the world, use the money we waste on war budgets to reinvest heavily in both education and travel infrastructure.
Open an avenue for trade schools and non college jobs so that people can start there then send their kids to school starting an end to the poverty cycle.
Increase the penalties for abusing social welfare, overhaul the welfare state, and increase oversight of those on government assistance for an extended period of time.
End the war on drugs, end the wars accross the world, use the money we waste on war budgets to reinvest heavily in both education and travel infrastructure.
Open an avenue for trade schools and non college jobs so that people can start there then send their kids to school starting an end to the poverty cycle.
Increase the penalties for abusing social welfare, overhaul the welfare state, and increase oversight of those on government assistance for an extended period of time.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:53 am to John88
Tougher gun control laws will make the violent criminals think twice before they obtain another weapon while they're out on probation, IMO.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:56 am to John88
Here's the problem. And my issue with the POTUS: He doesn't wait to see what factors caused to this happening before harping on his cause. In half of these cases, there is no red flag that would prevent these guys from acquiring weapons even under the condescendingly named "common sense legislation". So given that fact, its obvious the POTUS' eye is on the prize of gun restrictions for the sake of gun restrictions, and will use whatever example he can to tug at our heart strings until he or his successors get it.
So the logical conclusion is that he either wants all guns removed from personal possession (good luck with that) or he will put something so overbearing in place such as a full mental screening for the purpose of buying a gun. Then you have that issue of the pesky 2nd amendment (the one so at the front of our forefathers minds they put it right after the freedom of speech), and you have a scenario where doctors hired by people with an agenda deciding whether you deserve your 2nd amendment right.
I don't know what the optimal answer is but I am pretty much in the middle of this and don't trust the President's intentions.
So the logical conclusion is that he either wants all guns removed from personal possession (good luck with that) or he will put something so overbearing in place such as a full mental screening for the purpose of buying a gun. Then you have that issue of the pesky 2nd amendment (the one so at the front of our forefathers minds they put it right after the freedom of speech), and you have a scenario where doctors hired by people with an agenda deciding whether you deserve your 2nd amendment right.
I don't know what the optimal answer is but I am pretty much in the middle of this and don't trust the President's intentions.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:57 am to John88
The problem with all these mass-shootings doesn't lie with guns, the law, or even mental health.
The problem is that we've created several generations of coddled little babies who don't know how to deal with adversity. They are taught that life is "fair" and that there is no such thing as winning or losing (everyone gets a trophy). Make a B in a class? Mommy and Daddy will raise hell until the teacher raises it to an A. They never have to learn from failure and deal with its impact.
Then when they enter the real world and it kicks them in the nuts, they are not equipped to deal with it, so they lash out in irrational ways.
To answer your question...there is no change needed to gun control, unless we simply do away with control altogether. Guns aren't the problem. Pussies are the problem.
The problem is that we've created several generations of coddled little babies who don't know how to deal with adversity. They are taught that life is "fair" and that there is no such thing as winning or losing (everyone gets a trophy). Make a B in a class? Mommy and Daddy will raise hell until the teacher raises it to an A. They never have to learn from failure and deal with its impact.
Then when they enter the real world and it kicks them in the nuts, they are not equipped to deal with it, so they lash out in irrational ways.
To answer your question...there is no change needed to gun control, unless we simply do away with control altogether. Guns aren't the problem. Pussies are the problem.
This post was edited on 10/2/15 at 9:59 am
Posted on 10/2/15 at 10:13 am to John88
I say loosen gun laws as they are. Sure I can own a pistol, but why not an anti aircraft weapon, a tank, or a nuclear missile?
The second amendment was designed to let citizens help protect the America from enemies of the state. If any nation's military invaded, a glock wont suffice against modern military hardware.
The second amendment was designed to let citizens help protect the America from enemies of the state. If any nation's military invaded, a glock wont suffice against modern military hardware.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 10:21 am to John88
We have to have an honest debate in this country about mental health. It's almost impossible to have someone involuntary committed in this country unless the actually do something to hurt themselves or others. ITs a complicated issue.
Everyone should read this before forming an opinion.
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Everyone should read this before forming an opinion.
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 10:28 am to John88
No gun free zones and no CC permits required. Each of those discourage people from carrying and defending themselves or others from lunatics.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 10:28 am to John88
The right to own guns in this country is not for you to protect yourself, property, or family. We were given the option to bear arms so we could defend ourselves from a over bearing government. 100% of the time throughout history, governments have turned on the people, and forced them to live under tyranny. To combat this, our founding fathers opted to arm said people. It is an experiment that hasn't played out yet. One side effect is having issues like yesterday happen, but that is what we will always deal with under our system. I would rather chance having to live through a shooting gunman, than a tyrant taking over and not having the ability to take arms against him.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 10:28 am to John88
quote:There is no way to really change it. Some people just don't give a frick. You could still go in some place public and kill a bunch of people with a knife. You wouldn't kill as many, but you would kill some.
What would you change about gun control? Also, if you're fine with the gun control laws right now, let your voice be heard! What's your opinions on this?
Posted on 10/2/15 at 10:38 am to John88
I would initiate firearm training in public schools and make it a mandatory part of the curriculum. Then I would encourage citizens to arm themselves and carry open or concealed handguns of their choice in their everyday life. Lastly I would eliminate gun free zones and allow people to protect their lives and their property anywhere in the United States. Gun crime would decrease immediately.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 10:41 am to John88
Great post on the issue from wwtdd
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Another day, another college shooting. Another cry for gun control by politicians and hashtaggers who have no actual ability to control guns. There will guns widely available in this nation for at least as long as anybody reading this post is alive. You think it’s impossible to deport eleven million illegals? Try rounding up 250 million guns and melting them in the giant furnace the EPA never approves. Just like Mexicans, they will make more guns and they will come back. We have Draconian prohibitions on recreational narcotics. We have tens of thousand of armed officers spending tens of billions of dollars a year to make sure that shite is never seen in this land. How’s that going? But, frick, stand on the dead bodies and call for gun control you know wouldn’t work even if somebody White Outed the Second Amendment.
We can’t outlaw single mothers or dads who abandon their kids in utero or Internet chat room antisocial sickness or fricked up cowardly narcissists who correctly assume that mass murder is their only chance to be splashed all over TV like a Kardashian and are determined to reenact Columbine at the local community college for posthumous 24 hour coverage on cable news. We rightfully assume Al Qaeda and ISIS militants are irrational suicidal types hellbent on destruction and we annihilate them without hesitation from the sky because asking to meet at TGIFridays for unlimited apps and a friendly confab seems moot. We smudge them out like bugs. Yet we can’t accept the fact that we have bugs living among us who look kind of like us and who the neighbors will describe as quiet, but good kids. Americans have PBS and fat-free frozen yogurt universally available. We don’t have young men without fathers descending into madness and mass murderer worships on their blogs and websites and their basement rooms plastered with news clipping on their wall next to the guns and ammo nobody knows they possess because nobody cares.
There’s not a single one of these campus killers who couldn’t be pegged in a basic mental health eval a year before the killings. Say, by any chance, are you suicidally depressed about how life keeps handing you lemons? Have you noticed yourself collecting weapons lately to counter the massive conspiracy against you? Are you an 18-30 year old male with a history of mental illness in your family who never gets laid? Do you have detailed maps of the local learning institutions on your wall circled with squares and circles and the words ‘start the killings here.’ Do you own body armor and can you recite the names of previous mass shooting perpetrators cross indexed by name and date and numbers killed? Not a single one of these guys would ever make it to the gate at an Israeli airport just from visual eye and mannerism inspection. But complex problems require quick and futile solutions. Gun control. Also, more kids need the chance to go to college. We’re running out of targets.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 10:44 am to John88
This thread reminds me that I need to buy another box of ammo. 
Posted on 10/2/15 at 10:58 am to John88
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What would you change about gun control?
Make it as difficult to get a handgun as it is to get a suppressor. If you want one, you can get one. It just isn't cheap.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 11:19 am to John88
In my opinion most of the people doing this don't really care if they die, most probably want and expect to die. What they want is to be known, feared, respected, and revenge for all the mistreatment they feel society has given them.
I don't really think everyone carrying would stop these things from happening, it might prevent the shooters from killing as many. But I think most would just switch to using bombs more.
I would like to see a required psych evaluation for anyone purchasing the more deadly weapons ( and by more deadly I mean the ones that enable you to kill more people in a shorter amount of time) such as semi automatic rifles. But I also don't think this wouldn't prevent them from doing it, but it might prevent some casualties.
I don't really think everyone carrying would stop these things from happening, it might prevent the shooters from killing as many. But I think most would just switch to using bombs more.
I would like to see a required psych evaluation for anyone purchasing the more deadly weapons ( and by more deadly I mean the ones that enable you to kill more people in a shorter amount of time) such as semi automatic rifles. But I also don't think this wouldn't prevent them from doing it, but it might prevent some casualties.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:00 pm to John88
Repeal the 1968 Gun Control Act and remove machines guns, short barreled rifles and shotguns, and supressors from the 1934 NFA, and create national reciprocity for CCW or mandate Constitutional CCW nationwide. Good start.
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