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re: Jones' Ejection Hit
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:54 am to white_mj
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:54 am to white_mj
Because of the data indicating how many football players are having brain issues later in life I believe it might be time to remove hitting as part of the game. The purpose of a defense is to stop the advancement of the football. Sound tackling works well stopping advancement of the football. Football fans now applaud the violence associated with hard hitting. It might be time to eliminate hard hitting for health and safety reasons.
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:54 am to ForeverLSU02
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Nkemdiche's hit on Bama's QB looked much worse that Jones' hit FWIW
only because Bama's QB was running
and the Ole Miss player never left his feet
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:55 am to MightyYat
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textbook ejection material under the new rules.
suck
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:03 am to WAR TIGER
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Tight call. But it was a fair call.
and not a smart play by him when we are up by so much.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:04 am to white_mj
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I just didnt think it was a hit worthy of an ejection.
Most definitely was worthy. He launched towards the head. No brainer.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:05 am to MightyYat
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Left his feet
not really
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made contact above the neck
barely.
I think this hit should be used to show the errors inherent in the targeting rule.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:06 am to guedeaux
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Left his feet
not really
^This.....to me it looked as though he was just running through the QB not "launching" into the other players head.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:07 am to guedeaux
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Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make contact in the head or neck area
The term barely is not in the rules. It was targeting.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:07 am to Topwater Trout
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under the new rules.
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suck
Disagree. We have learned a LOT more about concussions and their cumulative effects. It is good to protect from head shots in this type of circumstance.
AU had a player that was ejected in the game before the LSU one (1st half, so could play against LSU)
It was the one that hit Jeter and knocked the wind out of him.
As Gary said...the defender learned his lesson, put a huge hit on the receiver, but the "injury" was breath knocked out...not concussion.
It is fair and it is taught. Jones will learn that next time, he'll drop lower and hit the QB in the sternum and not the head.
It wasn't malicious. But, it was the correct call. I don't need to see college kids getting hit in the head to be entertained.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:09 am to LSUfan4444
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It was targeting.
100% of the time.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:10 am to white_mj
Right call
Bad rule
Bad rule
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:11 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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We have learned a LOT more about concussions and their cumulative effects.
Do you stand a better chance of getting knocked out/concussion hitting a player up high or by a knee or thigh to the head?
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AU had a player that was ejected in the game before the LSU one (1st half, so could play against LSU) It was the one that hit Jeter and knocked the wind out of him. As Gary said...the defender learned his lesson, put a huge hit on the receiver, but the "injury" was breath knocked out...not concussion.
so he was ejected the week before and still targeted the following week? he didn't learn shite b/c that hit was illegal under the new rules also...hitting a defenseless player
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:11 am to white_mj
It's the result of the QB and all the linemen can cross the line of scrimmage before the throw play.
It's the right call by the rules, but I'm convinced that's what you're going to see come out of that play.
It's the right call by the rules, but I'm convinced that's what you're going to see come out of that play.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:13 am to harry coleman beast
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Right call. It was worth it imo
The problem I have with the rule is that the qb was out of the pocket and running towards the line of scrimmage. This same qb already had a 65 yard td run, had already stayed on his feet and completed a pass even though a safety had him completely wrapped up and was pulling on him. Later in the game the qb was allowed to flip a pass to the endzone after having 99% of his body across the line of scrimmage. Any one ever seen a qb pump fake a pass before? How is the defense supposed to commit to the tackle and then pull up a split second after the ball is released?
I'm sure by the rule, it was the correct call. But it's a terrible rule for defensive players.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:14 am to WAR TIGER
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He left his feet and had time to pull off the hit after the ball was thrown.
It was a bang-bang play. He never left his feet. The targeting had more to do with hitting high than anything else, IMO.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 10:16 am
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:15 am to white_mj
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I still am having trouble seeing this as "Targeting"
It was a hit to the head. Easy call.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:16 am to white_mj
call was correct but the rule is dumb, should not be an ejection or suspension. 15 yards max.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:16 am to Dire Wolf
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no way that should be worth an ejection. 15 yards maybe.
I disagree. This kind of rule might save football as we know it.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:17 am to Topwater Trout
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Do you stand a better chance of getting knocked out/concussion hitting a player up high or by a knee or thigh to the head?
The one getting HIT
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so he was ejected the week before and still targeted the following week? h
He did NOT "target" the LSU receiver. THAT was the point. He hit the LSU tight end exactly as he should...INSTEAD of the head.
It was a perfect example of
learning his lesson"
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 10:18 am
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:21 am to Choupique19
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The problem I have with the rule is that the qb was out of the pocket and running towards the line of scrimmage. This same qb already had a 65 yard td run, had already stayed on his feet and completed a pass even though a safety had him completely wrapped up and was pulling on him. Later in the game the qb was allowed to flip a pass to the endzone after having 99% of his body across the line of scrimmage. Any one ever seen a qb pump fake a pass before? How is the defense supposed to commit to the tackle and then pull up a split second after the ball is released?
Why the hell was Deion Jones trying to knock the crap out of him instead of tackling him?
As another poster said, a lot of the "dangerous" plays could be cleaned up with fundamental tackling.
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