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even though Bama got fricked by it, the forward pass rule...
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:17 am
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:17 am
...definitely needs fixing.
When the hell did the rule become some part of the QBS body being the line makes it legal? I always though the ball had to be behind the line at release.
Then, there's the linemen down field.
Expect to see this a lot until the rule is fixed.
When the hell did the rule become some part of the QBS body being the line makes it legal? I always though the ball had to be behind the line at release.
Then, there's the linemen down field.
Expect to see this a lot until the rule is fixed.
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:20 am to udtiger
Yeah that was stupid. What's the NFL rule state?
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:20 am to udtiger
Certainly some linemen down field, but he's right on the barrier and there was a guy on the spot. In Bama and it wasn't called so you have to pretty much believe the guy did his job. I mean, is that guy even alive still?
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:21 am to udtiger
Same thing happened in the LSU vs AUB game, expect a change next year that will probably allow the ref the power to penalize the lineman down field
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:22 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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Yeah that was stupid. What's the NFL rule state?
NFL rule is the same as college now. It used to be the ball.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:25 am to mountaintiger1499
I thought they could already call ineligible receiver down field?
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:27 am to harry coleman beast
So dumb. Should be the ball.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:29 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
Agreed not sure when the NFL changed.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:30 am to lsu13lsu
quote:they could they just don't. its a call that's missed all the time especially on plays like this
I thought they could already call ineligible receiver down field?
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:32 am to udtiger
The body vs ball rule won't change, but next year there will definitely be a bigger emphasis on calling a penalty on olinemen blocking 3-5+ yards downfield.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:43 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
It should definitely be the ball, and they have to start calling the lineman downfield.
It is impossible to defend when everyone's reads are blocking at the 2nd level and the QB is bailing out. You're going to see that shite ran until they call it consistently. It's a shame that an illegal forward pass is reviewable but ineligible man down field isn't.
It is impossible to defend when everyone's reads are blocking at the 2nd level and the QB is bailing out. You're going to see that shite ran until they call it consistently. It's a shame that an illegal forward pass is reviewable but ineligible man down field isn't.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 8:14 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
blocking 5 yards down field happens a lot and is rarely called but was surprised the ref didn't call it on Ole Miss. Know the gumps are in shock because they are use to those kinds of things going their way. The QB crossing the line rule needs to be changed. Just doesn't look right when your whole body is past the line other than one of your feet and can still throw the ball and not get penalized.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:39 pm to udtiger
Linemen downfield is a rule now.
Since they can't change the rule about body/ball position relative to LOS until the end of the season, look for the coaches to call for (and the refs to give) more attention to linesmen on plays like that.
Since they can't change the rule about body/ball position relative to LOS until the end of the season, look for the coaches to call for (and the refs to give) more attention to linesmen on plays like that.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:54 pm to udtiger
The thing I don't get about that play is why couldn't the replay officials overturn the play based on the blockers being down field? Why can't a clearly missed penalty be reviewable on a touchdown play? The blockers being way downfield is what turns this from a legitimate football play into bush-league playground garbage. That's one of the major keys DBs use to read pass vs run and if it was missed on a reviewable play then that should be part of the review.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:56 pm to yuritiger
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The thing I don't get about that play is why couldn't the replay officials overturn the play based on the blockers being down field? Why can't a clearly missed penalty be reviewable on a touchdown play? The blockers being way downfield is what turns this from a legitimate football play into bush-league playground garbage. That's one of the major keys DBs use to read pass vs run and if it was missed on a reviewable play then that should be part of the review
Can what's reviewable on replay be expanded in season, or is that also a rule change that has to wait until the off season?
I really do not know.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:07 pm to yuritiger
quote:You know the axiom, you could call a penalty on every play?
The thing I don't get about that play is why couldn't the replay officials overturn the play based on the blockers being down field? Why can't a clearly missed penalty be reviewable on a touchdown play?
I think the concept is to focus on the ball carrier on reviews; if something happens 20 yds away from the play, and it didn't draw the attention of the refs in the first place, it is usually safe to say it didn't affect the play.
quote:I think you're right on this point, and I hope they do reconsider in the off-season. Regarding the HUNH and it happening, this is a much more legit and viable complaint than "it's bad for the players' health".
That's one of the major keys DBs use to read pass vs run and if it was missed on a reviewable play then that should be part of the review.
It is interesting that the play occurred twice, and involved 2 of the most HUNH type teams, vs traditionally strong defensive teams (although Miles has never made an issue of it like Saban has).
Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:35 pm to udtiger
We got burned by it too. Its a crap rule that allows OL down field on a pass play. They need to clean that rule up.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:02 pm to Katy Tiger
The reason this play works as well as it does is because the linemen are down field, way down field. It is an illegal play and requires no rule changes to fix the situation. Just needs to be called. Why have a rule that the refs refuse to enforce? It didnt affect the LSU game but that play was a crushing blow to Alabama in that game.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:10 pm to Uncle Luke
Then you open Pandora's box if penalties/missed penalties are allowed to be reviewed. What penalty becomes reviewable.
Look at the Clemson game on Thursday night, they reviewed the spot on a first down call but clearly missed a facemask penalty that was obvious on review. Louisville gets ball back and almost tied it back up with a shot to win in a game that Clemson could have run clock out if the facemask gets called.
Look at the Clemson game on Thursday night, they reviewed the spot on a first down call but clearly missed a facemask penalty that was obvious on review. Louisville gets ball back and almost tied it back up with a shot to win in a game that Clemson could have run clock out if the facemask gets called.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:26 pm to udtiger
Rules are dumb. It's the ball on the goal line but the player on everything else? step on the white your out. Line up in neutral zone, penalty. They just make shite up as they go.
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