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Could Saban return to the NFL?
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:22 pm
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Usually, the chatter about Nick Saban being unhappy happens at the point on the calendar approaching the opening of the window for getting more money from his current employer. The near-annual accounts of Saban’s misery have arisen sooner than usual.
Jason McIntyre of The Big Lead shares an account that Saban may be on the way out of Alabama, due to apparent misery and frustration. (Then again, Saban isn’t happy unless he’s miserable and frustrated.)
If Saban is somehow trying to position himself for his inevitable next job, it’s not a surprise. The excellent biography of Saban from Monte Burke paints the picture of a tortured perfectionist who still strives for the approval of a long-deceased father, who apparently was even more tortured and even more of a perfectionist. Saban has achieved ridiculous success at the college level, winning national championships at LSU and Alabama and almost making Crimson Tide fans drop their collection of houndstooth hats into the “yard sale” box.
Faced with the choice of trying to climb once again the same mountain he has mastered on many occasions or taking care of unfinished business — like the spots Saban used to obsessively remove while washing cars at his father’s filling station — Saban could choose a return to the NFL.
Sure, Saban was miserable in Miami, leaving after only two seasons. But he was miserable because the salary cap and the draft kept him from stacking the deck the way that his recruiting skills allow him collect as many first-round picks as he can convince to come to Tuscaloosa. What if he were hired by a team that already had a stacked deck at the most important position in the game?
Bob Kravitz of WTHR recently wrote that the pressure is indeed on Colts coach Chuck Pagano in 2015. Adding to the pressure has to be the reality that the presence of quarterback Andrew Luck would allow owner Jim Irsay to lure any coach he wanted to town. If Irsay wanted Saban, would Saban listen?
Saban would want control over the operation, which means that G.M. Ryan Grigson would have to be fired, or at least neutered. An effort by Irsay to hire Saban in 1998 (the year Peyton Manning was drafted) went nowhere because G.M. Bill Polian wouldn’t have given up his authority.
With Luck running the offense and Saban crafting his NFL-style defense, it could work, and it could work well.
Saban clearly has what it takes to coach at the NFL level. As former LSU quarterback Matt Mauck told Monte Burke for the unauthorized Saban bio, “His meetings were so focused. I had Mike Shanahan and Jeff Fisher in the pros, and their meetings were jokes compared to Saban’s.”
Saban’s recruiting skills also overshadow his eye for talent.
“He’s like someone who can identify a Thoroughbred racing horse at a young age,” former Saban assistant Glen Mason told Burke. “He can just look at a high school player and say, ‘That guy is a winner.'”
At LSU, Saban spotted a high-school player named Jacob Hester, an undersized, two-star prospect. Saban turned Hester into a contributor at the college level, and Hester went on to play six years in the NFL.
For the Colts, the defense continues to be the problem. Who better than Saban, the guy Irsay wanted to hire at the outset of Peyton Manning’s career, to engineer the kind of defense to go along with the kind of quarterback who already can run the offense like a coach on the field?
There’s a long way to go before Saban would ever declare publicly that he’s not going to be the Indianapolis coach. But if Saban ever were going to return to the NFL, it surely would happen only with a team that has a franchise quarterback. And there’s no better team with a franchise quarterback than a team with a franchise quarterback on the front end of the prime of his career.
In the NFL, the team that best fits that description right now is the Colts.
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:24 pm to RLDSC FAN
Another season and another rumor about Saban leaving
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:25 pm to RLDSC FAN
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At LSU, Saban spotted a high-school player named Jacob Hester, an undersized, two-star prospect. Saban turned Hester into a contributor at the college level, and Hester went on to play six years in the NFL.
Damn. He made Jacob Hester after only coaching him for 7-8 months. That is impressive
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:27 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Saban isn’t happy unless he’s miserable and frustrated.
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What if he were hired by a team that already had a stacked deck at the most important position in the game?
As great as Saban is, the one thing he isn't really is a QB mentor IMO. I'd have to look back at the Miami defensive numbers as well but there my recollection was he didn't perform at the level you might expect and had serious issues with veteran players (notable show down with Zach Thomas for example).
He's capable in theory but I don't think he likes a system where he isn't the functional god of the organization. Pro players have egos and leverage - he tolerates or limits that, not likes that, in college.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Could Saban return to the NFL?
Yep, just like you could have refrained from posting such a stupid article.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:35 pm to RLDSC FAN
His ego is too big for the NFL. I could see him taking a year off then going to SC or ND.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:37 pm to RLDSC FAN
Saban has no choice of being a successful NFL coach. His personality just won't work.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:40 pm to RLDSC FAN
They'd be fricking stupid to get rid of Pagano
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:41 pm to RLDSC FAN
If he's not happy at Alabama, where people worship him, he sure as hell won't be happy in the NFL where he can't control everything and everyone... He's a control freak and isn't suited for the NFL. His next step will be retirement.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:45 pm to RLDSC FAN
Florio didn't have anything to write it seems. I did prefer when PFT had a heavier reliance on rumors though. They still call it the rumor mill, but he just posts commentary and a link to stories that broke the day before.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:47 pm to RLDSC FAN
People need to accept that Bama is saban's final stop. He'll never coach another team unless it's like some pee wee or high school team as a way to spend retirement.
If he does return to the NFL, it will be some time and in an executive role
If he does return to the NFL, it will be some time and in an executive role
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:01 pm to RLDSC FAN
People believing these are hilarious
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:08 pm to RLDSC FAN
Saban isn't a good enough game day coach for the NFL.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:08 pm to RLDSC FAN
Indianapolis has advanced another level in each of the last three years.
2012- Wild card (lost to Baltimore in first round)
2013- Divisional (beat KC, lost at NE in divisional round)
2014- Conference championship (beat Cincinnati, won at Denver, lost at NE)
Unless they completely implode, I can't see them getting rid of Pagano.
2012- Wild card (lost to Baltimore in first round)
2013- Divisional (beat KC, lost at NE in divisional round)
2014- Conference championship (beat Cincinnati, won at Denver, lost at NE)
Unless they completely implode, I can't see them getting rid of Pagano.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:09 pm to RLDSC FAN
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At LSU, Saban spotted a high-school player named Jacob Hester, an undersized, two-star prospect. Saban turned Hester into a contributor at the college leve
Saban really went out on a limb taking a chance on that bum Jacob Hester and giving him an offer
I mean the only other schools to give Hester an offer were:
Texas
Miami, Fl
Oklahoma
Oregon
Texas Tech
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:37 pm to RLDSC FAN
After years of Saban back to the NFL rumors. I'll believe it when I see it. He could be on the way out at Bama due to frustration, but the destination will be retirement and not the NFL.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:46 pm to RLDSC FAN
Dude is 70 why do people think he is leaving
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:15 pm to RLDSC FAN
It wouldn't shock me if the right opportunity like the Colts came up. The fact that he was an NFL failure will always eat at him. It would be his only regret in life. Also, the college game is moving in a direction he fundamentally hates, and threatens to harm his reputation as a defensive mastermind. If he has another season of sub-par defense, he may just leave for one last challenge in an environment that fits his style better. An elite, young offense with defensive issues would be the perfect fit for him. 4 national titles at two schools plus a super bowl might put him in the best coach of all time argument.
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:43 pm to RLDSC FAN
lol...
Saban's not going anywhere at this point, but he's especially not going back to the NFL.
Saban's not going anywhere at this point, but he's especially not going back to the NFL.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:48 pm to RLDSC FAN
Saban should stick to what he does best and that is being a college coach.
He is an A+ recruiter so as long as he's at Bama they are going to be a top 5-10 team. I guess his ego may want NFL success, but some guys just resonate better with college age kids and their message gets accross better. I always thought Rex Ryan would be a great college coach for this reason. Rex's message gets stale after awhile, but in college this isn't an issue because kids aren't there very long.
If he goes to the NFL, he'll likely be a decent but not great coach, but if he stays at Bama he has a chance to be top 5 college coach of all time, maybe even the best.
Pete Carroll has success in the NFL because he's a players coach, Saban not so much.
He is an A+ recruiter so as long as he's at Bama they are going to be a top 5-10 team. I guess his ego may want NFL success, but some guys just resonate better with college age kids and their message gets accross better. I always thought Rex Ryan would be a great college coach for this reason. Rex's message gets stale after awhile, but in college this isn't an issue because kids aren't there very long.
If he goes to the NFL, he'll likely be a decent but not great coach, but if he stays at Bama he has a chance to be top 5 college coach of all time, maybe even the best.
Pete Carroll has success in the NFL because he's a players coach, Saban not so much.
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