re: Having Gun Discussion On Facebook W/ A Friend

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by USAF Hart

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I'm sorry but you won't get any serious discussion on here about possible steps to curb gun violence.

Anything you suggest that would possibly make it harder for a criminal to get a gun will be met with such mental gymnastics as "criminals don't buy guns like normal people. Since they don't buy guns at stores like normal people then there is no reason to tighten the requirements to get a gun. Since we can't tighten requirements then there is nothing that can be done."

"So basically, we should do nothing".

That's the type of conversation that goes on around here.

Looking at the oft maligned wikipedia at Murder Rates by country in the most recently reported year.

The United States is 111th on the list with 4.7 murders per 100,000 residents. Countries higher than the US include:

North Korea - 5.2 (and they control everything)
British Virgin Islands - 8.4
Russia - 9.2
Cayman Islands (UK) - 14.2
Mexico - 21.5
Brazil - 25.2
South Africa - 31.0
Jamaica - 39.3

The most dangerous country on the list...Houduras 90.4

Yes...China, UK, Czech Republic, and France are all 1.0.
Ireland is 1.2 and Italy is actually 0.9.

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Tell him that Donald Trump said to get rid of the Mexicans and put up a wall, and our murder rate would be the same as our European counterparts...(of course, Trump hasn't said this, but it would make his liberal head explode to turn the discussion from gun control to illegal immigration).

I see all the down votes but I actually agree with you to an extent

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Stop allowing places like Wal-Mart and Bass Pro Shop to sell firearms and ammo. Build precincts at every police station that are manned 24/7 that can sell weapons and ammo to citizens who have the proper documentation and background check approval. Run thumb prints, retina scans, the whole nine yards. You could essentially kill multiple birds with one stone. Most people don't like going to police stations, especially if they have warrants out. When the station runs a background check, if something comes up, they can be arrested on the spot.

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Spoken like a true socialist - take economic power away from the capitalist system and give it to the government. After all, they know whats best and they SURELY wouldn't sell firearms to wind up in the hands of drug cartels would they? Go ahead and get Obama fired up with the teleprompter speeches saying stuff like "If you like your firearms, you can keep it!" - the sheep will be BAAAAAAAA'ing all night long!

When will the USA vs The World comparisons ever stop? Most countries do something's particularly well, while failing miserably at other things. It's easy to make the USA look bad when you keep comparing us against the best that each other country does.

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So it raised the question how can we control who and how people obtain guns and I think I found the best solution... Stop allowing places like Wal-Mart and Bass Pro Shop to sell firearms and ammo. Build precincts at every police station that are manned 24/7 that can sell weapons and ammo to citizens who have the proper documentation and background check approval. Run thumb prints, retina scans, the whole nine yards. You could essentially kill multiple birds with one stone. Most people don't like going to police stations, especially if they have warrants out. When the station runs a background check, if something comes up, they can be arrested on the spot.

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We should start institutionalizing the mentally ill instead of feeding them pills and waiting for them to explode.

There are A LOT more places with worse murder rates than America

Maybe he'll mention something about Chicago and DC to you, and you'll learn your lesson

The most responsible and mature gun owners don't go on Facebook blabbing about guns all the fricking time, hell, you would never know they owned one.

Conversely, it's also not very smart to let everyone on Facebook know that you are NOT a gun owner.

Man, frick you.