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Bottom Line: You want to compete for championships you better have a QB

Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:55 pm
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2618 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:55 pm
Strong grasp for the obvious here but LSU's QB play MUST improve for them to have any chance to win SEC West in 2015. This is the MAIN reason we are not getting the recognition we deserve for being a potential title contender (possibly a GREAT team) this season. I hope someone steps up and proves me wrong. Would like to see what Harris can do with a few quality starts. Jennings is a good/decent manager but we simply NEED more...... Long off-season for me.... Anyone else have an insight into this mess that Les has created?
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:57 pm to
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Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14887 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 6:01 pm to
a what??? I thought that position had been eliminated
Posted by Football_Freak
Member since May 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 6:01 pm to
2011 made some think otherwise. We had an NFL caliber defense and the playmaker of the decade, and a poor Qb, and we still had one of the best regular seasons in college football history, and also won the SEC.

But short of the NFL defense and Honey Badger, we would not have had either the best season nor the SEC championship. It was the rare exception to the "you have to have a good QB" thesis.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 6:02 pm to
Thanks captain obvious
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7285 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

I hope someone steps up and proves me wrong.

Proves you wrong about what? That you need a QB to compete for championships? Am I confused, or do you just suck at expressing a coherent thought?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69377 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 6:03 pm to
You don't need a qb to win championships. You need a strong run game that wears down defenses and a stout defense.

I think Les has the right idea here. Instead of trying to score 40 points a game to win, ensure that 14-17 points a game is enough for a win as the opponent is worn down and unable to get through the dline.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

This is the MAIN reason we are not getting the recognition we deserve for being a potential title contender (possibly a GREAT team) this season

And its a very fair critique.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 6:37 pm to
Yes, agree LSU will need QB development to get that next SEC title or make the playoffs. Too important a position.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81741 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

This is the MAIN reason we are not getting the recognition we deserve for being a potential title contender (possibly a GREAT team) this season.
Why do we deserve more than we are getting?
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16334 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

Jennings is a good/decent manager


No man, hell no.
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12282 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

Anyone else have an insight into this mess that Les has created?


- 103 Wins in Ten Seasons
- 10.3 Wins per season average
- 1 National Title
- 26-2 Following a Loss
- 10-0 in Season Openers
- 47-9 on ESPN/ESPN2
- 7 Season of 10 wins or better

What mess? Oh that's right, we didn't win a Title every year. Gotcha.

Does anyone want to stop grading NCAA football coaches based on National Titles? Is it even fair to think we could have gone this season, with that young lineup? Really?

CLM prepares these kids for life and the NFL. He tries to win a National Title too and he gets close a few times (2012)

It is rare for any coach to win more than two National Titles so why expect it from LES MILES every season?

Coaches with at least 3 National Titles:

Nick Saban
Urban Meyer
Bear Bryant
Bobby Bowden
Tom Osbourne
Bud Wilkinson
Knute Rockne


If Les Miles wins a Title either next year or the year after, then what happens? He retires?

Statistically, his odds of a 3rd are slim to none. Why do we always continue to expect a title out of this man? He will get us one, but not every season.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

GREAT team
quote:

mess
Makes sense.
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3062 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 7:51 pm to
A good QB would help all of the high quality WR's on the team as well.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15605 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 7:57 pm to
Eat a bullet
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47810 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:01 pm to
OL and DL...FIFY
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20449 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

Bottom Line: You want to compete for championships you better have a QB


You could have a generational defense too. I mean Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring...
Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
1416 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

This is the MAIN reason we are not getting the recognition we deserve for being a potential title contender (possibly a GREAT team) this season.



Why do you feel we need recognition? I always thought it was about actually playing the game--not what some reporter or magazine says.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48518 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:31 pm to
If your Full Back can gain four yards running the Foot Ball on every play from the Line of Scrimmage, you will win the Foot Ball game.

There is no need to utilize the risky Forward Pass.

There is no need to utilize the new-fangled Quarter Back position. Simply hike the Foot Ball directly to your Full Back in your Wing T formation.

Army won many games like this before 1913, which is the year that Knute Rockne's boys from Notre Dame utilized the tricky Forward Pass to beat Army.

However, I agree with Coach Miles that this Forward Pass "fad" will not last for a long time.

If your Wing T offense stalls, utilize a Drop Kick on Third Down to get yourself better Field Position.
Posted by Dick Macho
New Iberia
Member since Jun 2013
920 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:49 am to
Sometimes I think that Les gets all caught up with these athletic manimals who look awesome in practice but get exposed as sub-par passers with serious confidence issues in real games.

Mett, for instance, had the most confidence that I've ever seen at the NCAA level which was a perfect fit with the most trustworthy WR duo in the nation that year. Imagine how badly those two WRs would have been underutilized with a guy like JJ at QB for their Jr seasons.

Even with great recs that year Mett delivered many great passes that got dropped but he constantly delivered those balls and the catches came. You need that level of play from the starting QBs of top SEC teams like LSU. Even though I love Miles as LSUs coach, he needs to field top passers at that position or the offense will never reach its potential. LSU already has one of the top 5 backfields in the nation to rush the ball, the QB OBVIOUSLY needs to be able to maximize the production of one of the top WR groups in the nation.
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