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re: The best DUI checkpoint refusal you've ever seen W/VIDEO
Posted on 1/4/15 at 11:34 am to Nativebullet
Posted on 1/4/15 at 11:34 am to Nativebullet
Maybe America isn't the place for you
This post was edited on 1/4/15 at 11:36 am
Posted on 1/4/15 at 11:34 am to VetteGuy
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Every day, more rights are eroded in the name of "the common good".
DUI checkpoints may occasionally catch a drunk driver, but they are far more likely to be abused by poorly trained, corrupt police. It is an extremely poor use of law enforcement resources and by and large, it is a pain in the arse for the 99.9% sober drivers that are legally traveling public roads.
Agreed. They need to get rid of checkpoints and make DUI way harsher. 1 year mandatory prison time for the first offense, 5 years if you cause an accident or an injury, and lifetime suspension of your license would stop 90%+ of DUIs.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 11:45 am to RummelTiger
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About these super-rights idiots...
We get it, we have rights, but you don't have to be a complete dick about it.
If you're not drunk, then just roll the window down, say hello, politely comply, then head on home.
Was your wife pegging you for not properly cleaning the kitchen as you typed that?
Posted on 1/4/15 at 12:48 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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This money would be much better spent if you put each of these cops in a cruiser and have them actually patrol the streets.
You know what would be an even better use of public funds? Placing a cop outside of bars and watching for obviously drunk patrons getting behind the wheel as they leave, stopping them, and calling them a cab. You know they could actually protect and serve the public at the exact same time. But that doesn't generate money for municipalities like catching someone driving with a .08 BAC, so it will never happen.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 12:55 pm to medtiger
I always appreciate when it is Christmas and New Years and the liquor companies pick up the cab fares from bars. IMHO, cities doing that all of the time would reduce a lot of the drinking and driving
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:13 pm to lsu480
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quote:
Every day, more rights are eroded in the name of "the common good".
DUI checkpoints may occasionally catch a drunk driver, but they are far more likely to be abused by poorly trained, corrupt police. It is an extremely poor use of law enforcement resources and by and large, it is a pain in the arse for the 99.9% sober drivers that are legally traveling public roads.
Agreed. They need to get rid of checkpoints and make DUI way harsher. 1 year mandatory prison time for the first offense, 5 years if you cause an accident or an injury, and lifetime suspension of your license would stop 90%+ of DUIs.
agree with this, for the most part ... dui laws, esp for a 2nd one or in case of injury or accident, should result in some serious jail time and money fine ...
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:18 pm to tgrbaitn08
Bet he got a DUI or will soon be the recipient of one.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:26 pm to Nativebullet
I understand why you would kowtow to local law enforcement.
I mean, there certainly isn't a better example of police departments than the BRPD.
I mean, there certainly isn't a better example of police departments than the BRPD.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:52 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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I am going to put this out there and this is just my opinion others may differ and that is fine. In August of 1967 my 2nd oldest brother who was 2 years old at the time was killed by a drunk driver. My Dad permanently crippled. Only has half of his knee cap and his knee is wired together. Even with all of that I do not support DWI checkpoints. The way the whole thing is done encourages corruption by the police. Each dept. gets extra funds to pay for and man these checkpoints. Police get overtime pay to work these checkpoints. They awards for the amount of drunks they catch. We just had a story in the media a week or 2 ago where a girl was arrested for DWI and was stone cold sober. I am sure most of us have been through these check points at one time or another. Damn near every time their are 20 plus cops working. All of this money being spent to set up at one spot on a hwy for 5-6 hours and it has to be public knowledge ahead of time. This money would be much better spent if you put each of these cops in a cruiser and have them actually patrol the streets. Not to mention that its a violation of your rights to be randomly stopped and questioned.
this right here. there's no argument that overcomes this point. it's not even a contest. checkpoints are a breach of our rights and a waste of our taxmoney.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:57 pm to SuperSaint
How easy would it have been to not drive after you drank that 16oz.?
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:19 pm to lsu480
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1 year mandatory prison time for the first offense,
People are so funny. If you're going to do the above then they need to figure out some sort of tiers on the whole BAC cause some states right now are at .08.
Let's be blunt here. It's a virtual certainty that more than half the drivers over 55 have lost more of their reaction time from when they were 25 than a 25 year old has when he's .08.
I think it's actually somewhat simple to reduce DUIs without going all draconian. Make the 1st offense of a mandatory "fine" of installing a breath device on ALL cars in your household in order for you to start them(and any new car you buy in a given time frame).
For those who say, "but they'll just get someone else to blow", really? I mean, I suppose that may happen VERY occasionally, but sheesh.
This post was edited on 1/4/15 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:26 pm to The Dudes Rug
quote:would have been easy.... But considering one beer doesn't impair me to the point that it is illegal for me to drive, I don't get your point.
How easy would it have been to not drive after you drank that 16oz.?
I guess that means if I go out to dinner I better not have a glass of wine and drive out of there.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:27 pm to SuperSaint
quote:Here's a pro tip, don't say anything without a lawyer.
after drinking one 16oz beer and admitting to it
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:28 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Especially if you have a pill problem
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:31 pm to ShortyRob
I used to kind of think way this too, especially about drivers over 65.
Recent studies (I just saw a report on this, I'll look) have shown that just isn't the case.
Plus, while the sober 55 yo maybe slower to react, he will certainly be better than a .08 25 yo, in most cases, especially considering his overall driving experience.
IDK if it's true, but aren't most deadly DUI crashes caused by repeat offenders?
Recent studies (I just saw a report on this, I'll look) have shown that just isn't the case.
Plus, while the sober 55 yo maybe slower to react, he will certainly be better than a .08 25 yo, in most cases, especially considering his overall driving experience.
IDK if it's true, but aren't most deadly DUI crashes caused by repeat offenders?
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:32 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Yep. I once made an illegal U turn(didn't realize it...see the sign) and got pulled over. It was late on a Sat nigh so, the cop asked me if I'd been drinking. In fact, I had had LITERALLY one glass of wine. So, I told him so.
Here's a pro tip, don't say anything without a lawyer.
The dude went the frick off about me "lying" cause "everyone" says they only had "one drink". So, despite me not exhibiting any symptoms of being drunk, I was treated to a field sobriety test on the side of the road where it's a virtual certainty, people I know drive by. All the while, the guy talked to me like I was a child who'd done wrong.
I could've done a fricking 100 burpees for that a-hole I was so NOT drunk so obviously, I passed. He let me go while still telling me he "didn't believe" my "one drink" story.
Yeah. Just don't say squat.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:32 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:i understand. I was young and dumb at the time and was running late to a wedding. Instead of him sitting me on side of the road and bullshitting me around, I wanted to just get it out of the way and go ahead and blow and get him to let me on my marry little way since I KNEW FOR A FACT I was under the legal limit. And not impaired AT ALL... No pills Drew, sorry.
quote: after drinking one 16oz beer and admitting to it Here's a pro tip, don't say anything without a lawyer.
FAIL
I ended up having to come off of a shite load of money and missed a good friend's wedding (had to bond out on a credit card and get my car out of the tow yard )
This post was edited on 1/4/15 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:36 pm to RummelTiger
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:40 pm to medtiger
quote:Exactly this. When the setup a checkpoint near a bar, it is a money grab. Because they clearly dont give a shite about the peoples safety when half the people leaving the bar drunk take a route not through the checkpoint
You know what would be an even better use of public funds? Placing a cop outside of bars and watching for obviously drunk patrons getting behind the wheel as they leave, stopping them, and calling them a cab. You know they could actually protect and serve the public at the exact same time. But that doesn't generate money for municipalities like catching someone driving with a .08 BAC, so it will never happen.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:40 pm to JordonfortheJ
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.if you aren't doing wrong what's the problem? just comply.
this is exactly why our society has has our rights eroded and allowed our police force to become militarized
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