The annual Die Hard is not a Christmas movie thread

Oh, and if you disagree, you would be wrong...

I agree. A movie taking place at a certain time doesn't necessarily make it a "______ movie".

It might be my favorite Christmas movie. That, or Home Alone.

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Christmas is not a major theme of the film; it is simply a motif.

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Right - a reason for McClane to be in from out of town and a few Christmas props. Plus, the office Christmas party is a reason for everyone to be in the building after hours. Obviously, Hans' intel that the party would afford him the opportunity to take hostages is related to this as well. But any gathering, celebration would have sufficed.

But, neither Christian observances/traditions/themes nor Santa Claus involvement played any significant role in the plot of the film.

While it may be appropriate for Christmas watching, precisely because of the setting, it is not a Christmas film in the same way that Miracle on 34th Street, The Santa Clause, Scrooged, are.

Now - start a thread on why Home Alone isn't a Christmas movie... (MUCH bigger argument there - )

It IS a Christmas allegory.

Bruce Willis represents Santa in this movie - a Santa who had lost his way to booze and loose living whilest getting caught up in the job.

This costs him his wife, Ms. Santa, and the respect of his elves (the people at the party).

As Christmas rolls around that fateful 1980's night, that first scent of egg nog and Christmas delight awakens the flame that was kindling in John's soul, a fire that exposed that gaping hole.

He crossed the world for his love only to be surprised by greed from above.

As he shimmied a crawled through that scraper so high, he was bound and determined to draw oh so nigh, to save his girl held by capitalist pigs who laughed and gloated whilest smoking their cigs.

Who's that? A lawyer, a scribe, to save the day. No no no, as we watch his brains spray.

It was john all along who would kill this scrouge in fun, ho ho ho he now has a machine gun.

What's that? You gonna trap Santa's arse? that commie didn't know, that Santa walks on glass.

And just when that Capitalist greedy scum thinks his will get his gold...John comes at him oh so bold.

Oh look! Scrouge has Ms. Santa OH that man is WHACK.

Santa laughs "Yippy ki yah MO FO scope out my back!"

Ms Clause, inspired, stomps on Scrooges toe as he is met with bullets and plummets below.

Death claims another and the commie falls...

Santa got his MO JO back Merry Christmas to all.

1. Christmas Music in Soundtrack?
- Yes, as well as a reoccurring theme in the score.
2. Christmas parties?
- Yes
3. Christmas/Festive wear?
- Yes

Hell, he even tapes his M9 to his back with festive packing tape.

It's most definitely a Christmas movie.

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Christmas is not a major theme of the film; it is simply a motif. Christmas could be replaced by other holidays or events, and the central idea of the film would stay the same.

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Everything you just said applies to It's a Wonderful Life.

But since Ted Turner decided in 1985 to show it on his network every Christmas...people began to think of it like Miracle on 34th Street (ergo, a Christmas movie)

My big pet peeve: Listen up everyone!!!!!

It has nothing to do with Christmas...the final scene ends on Christmas...that's all.

It has to do with a man's longing for exploration, longing, adventure - big dreams dashed...reality, and finding out you don't need to travel the world to experience it all.

It's a great guy movie...and men love it and women hate it...it's about hopes and dreams and fulfillment in life...

NOT CHRISTMAS!!!!

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Die Hard is not a Christmas movie thread

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Sure it is.

Did you just stumble upon the M/TV board after forgetting it was here? You're "what is/is not a Christmas movie" trip is weird.

It was released in the summer of 1988.

Not a Christmas movie.

It sure is a great movie to see at Christmas time.