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re: Our ancestors were douchebags,so why do we admire them?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You live in the most powerful country in the history of the world and if it took choosing 42 1/2 white males to get there, so be it.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
And the world was a much better place back then too.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
more was accomplished for the good of societies in that era that you speak of than probably will be ever again. I take it you've never built anything or worked as a superior. Sometimes somebody's gotta be the a-hole or nothing will get accomplished.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You do realize that someone somewhere along even your paltry gene pool killed someone to survive right?
There have been huge leaps in the fundamental nature of survival the last few centuries. We have the ability to look back with perspective on periods and events in time in which we can't place ourselves. Our ancestors made decisions which at the time were necessary for their well being and survival.
There have been huge leaps in the fundamental nature of survival the last few centuries. We have the ability to look back with perspective on periods and events in time in which we can't place ourselves. Our ancestors made decisions which at the time were necessary for their well being and survival.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Put the pipe down bro.
You need to understand that it's all relative and those were different times they were living in.
You need to understand that it's all relative and those were different times they were living in.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm not sure what you want me to do about the bad things my ancestors may or may not have done
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Your assumption here is that there is an objective moral standard that transcends time and cultures. If we are honest with ourselves, I think we have to say that there is absolutely no evidence of that.
Our ancestors that raped, pillaged and subjected were only "bad" by our modern western standards.
Our ancestors that raped, pillaged and subjected were only "bad" by our modern western standards.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Not all of our ancestors were douchebags. Most were ordinary people. You can't hold all the good ones in a bad light due to what was "acceptable" at the time. Humanity has been in a constant transformation to higher levels of civility since day 1. It doesn't mean we shouldn't celebrate the great accomplishments of those before us. We also should examine and learn from their mistakes..because doing exactly that is how we realize what is wrong and what is right.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:03 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Raped, pillaged
I couldn't help but immediately think of Hannibal Burress' bit on rape and pillage
"What's pillaging? Idk I thought we were focusing on the rape"
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:AKA, the 'good old days.'
They subjugated women, slaves, and erected societies of severe inequality
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Flip one switch on the electrical grid, or a major food /water contamination or supply issue, or gas crisis, and we would admire them more. Bottom line, they were survivors that created us, so I won't show them any disrespect, esp. since we have it 10 times easier, as our life expectancy shows...
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because back then there wasn't all this political correct bs that goes against everything that is actually American. You can't say this or that and if you even think differently don't you dare talk about. In other words, they were free of being fed thought control propaganda. Unlike today.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I don't really admire humans, past or present. I think people, in general, are morons. I've been cursed with vastly superior intelligence, and living in this world is a burden. We are animals, we have no souls, and people are inherently evil.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:30 pm to 911Moto
People aren't morons, they just aren't as rational as they like to think they are. We are still largely driven by base animal instinct, just on grander scales than every other species.
Also, I would argue there is no such thing as inherent evil. Evil is subjectively defined by a given group of people.
Also, I would argue there is no such thing as inherent evil. Evil is subjectively defined by a given group of people.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Well that's your take on it
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:45 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Our ancestors that raped, pillaged and subjected were only "bad" by our modern western standards.
And the strong men of those times
when rape was smiled upon by all, propelled by no internal moral nature, started down the path to our "modern Western standards" for what reason exactly?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You are a dooshbag
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
They were. And like all of us, who were douchebags until we learned from the experience of our errs, humanity itself learned over successive generations from that as well.
100 years from now we'll look like douchebags, and 200 years from now the people who thought we were douchebags 100 years ago will look like douchebags. So on and so forth. Humanity is an ever-perpetuating mass of self-improvement, just appreciate your spot on the ride and do your best to keep it going.
100 years from now we'll look like douchebags, and 200 years from now the people who thought we were douchebags 100 years ago will look like douchebags. So on and so forth. Humanity is an ever-perpetuating mass of self-improvement, just appreciate your spot on the ride and do your best to keep it going.
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