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re: Very interested in hearing the Miles-bashers' answers about the future

Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by wizziko
New Jersey Nets Fan
Member since Jan 2006
35881 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:40 pm to
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They don't want to like him. They don't want him to do well. That's because they want another coach in there. For that to happen they know Miles must fail in spectacular fashion. So that's what they root for.


that's me right there. Never liked the hire and never liked Miles. This goes all the way back to the Tennessee game in 2005. Up 21-0 at half and then sit on the ball and allow Casey fricking Clausen beat us.

I was honestly a little upset we won the national championship because it meant Miles was gonna be around longer

for the people that keep bringing up his W-L record, it SHOULD be better. We're one of the premier programs in the country and shouldn't accept mediocrity. Contending for the national championship every single year should be commonplace for us. We should be blowing out shitty teams like every other top program in the country, not circlejerking with them.

January 9th was a fricking embarrassment and there's no defending it. We ran a motherfricking FB Dive on 3rd and 5 in the 4th quarter. A FB DIVE. A FB DIVE. If that isn't waving the white flag, I don't know what it. Using the "well I guess he doesn't want to win national championships" for recruit doesn't fly anymore because we aren't going to win any with that imbecile as our coach. If I was a top offensive recruit, I wouldn't want to come to LSU and get misused. Russell Shepard is a good example. Top QB coming out of high school and doesn't throw a single fricking pass. He gone somewhere else and prospered.

Everyone is laughing at Texas right now but that's who we're becoming
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48699 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:42 pm to
It looks like a re-building year for us, ballscaster.

It's a shite sandwich and every LSU fan is going to have to take a bite.
Posted by JdbsLSUBR
Member since Aug 2014
51 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:43 pm to
What's most relevant is a qualitative analysis of his record, not a quantitative analysis. His record, evaluated qualitatively, is not overly impressive.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:45 pm to
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There's also been a weird strain of self-loathing in the Louisiana collective (put that word in especially for you) psychology. When I was a kid there were these hater-types that were all in with Notre Dame. These same people throw in with the Gumps now. They idealize "the other" and detest themselves. It's actually a very "Lefty" psychological perspective, but I digress, pre-fist-fight, so as not to go all PT Board on you. In the LSU case, I think it's based in fear. LSU fans can be fearful types. They fear loss of status.



As I recall Saban had a similar view on the psychology of the LSU football program and the people of La. I need to try to find that quote.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:46 pm to
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do you really not see that LSU has regressed since 01/09? If so, you are delusional.
LSU clearly has improved greatly since that night.
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You previously stated that W/L was everything.
When? Quote me.
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You can't be serious that Coker regressed and that disallows comparing his firing despite his W/L percentage.


Apparently I can.

Still no comprehensive stats to support your opinion that Miles isn't an elite college football coach. You've got nothing.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 8:48 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:49 pm to
Obvious sidewalk. No alum would ever say shite that stupid. Pick another bandwagon.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:49 pm to
Probably. It happens.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:51 pm to
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What's most relevant is a qualitative analysis of his record, not a quantitative analysis. His record, evaluated qualitatively, is not overly impressive.
Yeah, he wins almost all the time but it doesn't look right. You people are unbelievable.

Les Miles is better at coaching football than you are at anything.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69378 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:52 pm to
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He gone somewhere else and prospered.


yeah to the nfl as a wr, you know, the position he played at LSU.

LSU broke a record last year. First team in the sec to have a 3000 yd passer two 1000 yd receivers and 1000 yd rusher.

So please id like any recruit to go look at other teams and they wont find one that has that many players putting up those kinds of numbers. If you want proof Landry just tore it up yesterday for the Dolphins. yeah dont come to the team that sends more players to the nfl each season than anyone.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69378 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:55 pm to
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What's most relevant is a qualitative analysis of his record,


you do know we play bama, auburn and UF every year rt? Find me a team that has a harder schedule other than state and arkansas every year? you cant. most conferences dont have 3 bcs winning teams, we have 3 in our fricking division.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69378 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:00 pm to
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hen all the stars line up and we back in the Championship again


i didnt know winning the sec was backing in? i think you are thinking of another team.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:00 pm to
Let me give you some analysis:

Communist icons on your avatar, circular logic pattern - talks in circles without ever making a point, fails to grasp linear logic, refuses to accept facts that disprove preassumed conclusions, resorts to name calling when he can't win an argument...

Sounds like a Democrat Party underling.

The mental picture I am getting from this is not the footprint of a college football fan, but more that of disaffected bohemian who can't quite get over his father's disapproval.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 9:03 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:02 pm to
You're a fricking idiot.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7138 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:03 pm to
You guys continue to bring up the very impressive W-L record Miles has logged as HC of LSU. You can't fairly look at the w/l record football of a single season and make a determination on weather a guy should keep his job or not. Les Miles has a very good won/loss record and nobody will deny that.

What bothers most people about Les is the continuation of a pattern that has repeatedly failed us in the big games. Les and only Les shite the bed in the 2011 championship game. He refused to put his own team in a position to win the ball game. This pattern seems to be repeating itself. The SEC has changed greatly in the last 3-4 years- everyone (elite players) wants to come play in this league and we have 8 teams currently recruiting at an elite level. It's is going to be very hard to overpower anyone anymore.

If Les continues on his 8-5, 9-4, maybe even 10-3 path- he will have a great
W-L record - will that be enough for everyone? Would it be time to give someone else a shot or will you be happy with a coach with a good record?
Posted by broadcaster
Maurepas
Member since Sep 2013
2685 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:03 pm to
I've been a Les mile fan because of his recruiting,winning %,family man,his corkyness, but never his coaching. We've been though a lot of ups and downs with the man. More ups because of his record, but if we really be honest were a lot closer to having at least 15-20 twenty losses than most give him credit for! Miles did when me over because his record and the way he runs his program he's a good CEO,but he needs to let his managers manage though. I've always supported him but I'm really running out of excuses for him. It's time to take off the purple glasses and look what it really is he's great for the program in many ways good head guy but he needs good coaches and let them do their jobs to be a dominant head guy!!
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6069 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:04 pm to
Someone touched a nerve.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:06 pm to
Back to name calling when you can't win the argument. I actually feel sorry for you, so I'll back out and let you try to regain some measure of self control.

This was fun. Let's do it again sometime.

Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:07 pm to
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What bothers most people about Les is the continuation of a pattern that has repeatedly failed us in the big games.
37-19 vs ranked teams. One SEC coach has a more impressive such record. Unless you count Gus at 5-2.

I already stated, I trust the AD to treat Miles the same way they treated Dinardo, Brady, and Trent.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:09 pm to
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Back to name calling when you can't win the argument. I actually feel sorry for you, so I'll back out and let you try to regain some measure of self control.


You actually are a fricking idiot. That isn't namecalling.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:10 pm to
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Obvious sidewalk. No alum would ever say shite that stupid. Pick another bandwagon.




Alums say stupid shite about their alma maters all the time. It's just depends on what you think is stupid. One mans stupid is another mans genius.

And you sound like a douchebag for saying not just in this thread but your posting career for saying you have to be closely affiliated with LSU or even have a degree to be able to criticize the football team and its coaches. Childish and reeks of elitism.
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