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re: mark schlereth used bounty gate to indict Goodell
Posted on 9/9/14 at 5:43 pm to JumpingTheShark
Posted on 9/9/14 at 5:43 pm to JumpingTheShark
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It's a good analogy in my opinion.
It's a BS analogy. Did Goodell actually say that Payton "should have known"? Where is the link or are we taking Schlereth's word as though it is coming from the burning bush? Payton DID know. It was his idea to implement the plan to make his defense "nasty" and then he orchestrated the plan to cover it up.
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 5:43 pm to partywiththelombardi
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Yeah...the 220 lb NFL player had to defend himself against his fiance by knocking her out like she was in a ring with him. As oppose to restraining her like most men do when their wife swings on them and calming her down. you know because you love and care about one another...and all that jazz.
I'm not trying to defend Rice...but she did swing first. I'm guessing he regrets how he defended himself but technically, that is what he was doing.
This post was edited on 9/9/14 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 9/9/14 at 5:51 pm to LSU82BILL
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I'm not trying to defend Rice...but she did swing first. I'm guessing he regrets how he defended himself but technically, that is what he was doing.
Rice had to drag her limp body off the elevator. I can easily understand Schlereth being a husband and family man being upset and disturbed by that footage.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 5:53 pm to partywiththelombardi
It's AMAZING that a handful of anonymous people on an LSU message board know what the Saints and Sean Payton did or did not do when the only "evidence" America has seen is a couple of PowerPoints, a legal hit on Kurt Warner, and a vile yet ultimately irrelevant locker room speech by Gregg Williams.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 5:54 pm to LSU82BILL
I just rewatched it and recant my previous statement...
she taps him aggressively on his chin on her way into the elevator.(definitely pissed him off)
they exchange words(probably alot of profanity)
Ray leans in and I assume he spits on her face...you can tell by how she reacts(shocked face) immediately and puts her elbow into his mouth.
He responds with a jab, backs up and anticipates her charge and follows that with his left handed KO
ETA: if you watch it fullscreen(play and pause) like its a nip slip on a VHS tape you should catch everything
she taps him aggressively on his chin on her way into the elevator.(definitely pissed him off)
they exchange words(probably alot of profanity)
Ray leans in and I assume he spits on her face...you can tell by how she reacts(shocked face) immediately and puts her elbow into his mouth.
He responds with a jab, backs up and anticipates her charge and follows that with his left handed KO
ETA: if you watch it fullscreen(play and pause) like its a nip slip on a VHS tape you should catch everything
This post was edited on 9/9/14 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 9/9/14 at 5:58 pm to LSU82BILL
I thought that was never proven?
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:12 pm to lsutigers1992
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He gathered team powerpoints and cocktail napkins to indict the Saints.
The powerpoint evidence against the saints literally looked like a 3rd grader did it.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:15 pm to udtiger
While I agree that Goodell screwed the pooch on this, and should lose his job for it, Saints fans using this as vindication for Payton's ego and frick you attitude to the league is laughable. Pill popper is just as much an insufferable egomaniac as the dude y'all are projecting against. Both idiots got too big for their britches and needed to be brought back down to earth.
Payton had his comeuppance.... now it's Roger's turn.
Payton had his comeuppance.... now it's Roger's turn.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:19 pm to LSU82BILL
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he always sees things from the players perspective. He has a healthy contempt for ownership and league executives.
nothing wrong with that
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:19 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Pill popper is just as much an insufferable egomaniac as the dude y'all are projecting against. Both idiots got too big for their britches and needed to be brought back down to earth.
this is also true
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:21 pm to LSU82BILL
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quote: the NFL likely had it but denied it Does Goodell strike you as the kind of guy that looks the other way?
I kind of agree
This whole ordeal is completely out of the ordinary for Goodell. He's always gone further than most people expect or want when investigating issues like this. No one knows for sure, but I have no reason to think Goodell saw the tape and did nothing or just didn't care about finding out. Hell people have always hated on roger for being too harsh and being to much of a "dictator" and abusing his power
This post was edited on 9/9/14 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:23 pm to jg8623
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This whole ordeal is completely out of the ordinary for Goodell. He's always gone further than most people expect or want when investigating issues like this. No one knows for sure, but I have no reason to think Goodell saw the tape and did nothing or just didn't care about finding out. Hell people have always hated on roger for being too harsh and being to much of a "dictator" and abusing his power
violence against women (both sexual and domestic) is brushed over a lot of the time in the country. See the thread about Jerry Jones where half the posters initial attitude is to make a snide remark about the accuser.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:26 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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violence against women (both sexual and domestic) is brushed over a lot of the time in the country.
See Jason Kidd. Dude got a HC job.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:27 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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See Jason Kidd
perfect example
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:32 pm to jg8623
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I kind of agree
This whole ordeal is completely out of the ordinary for Goodell. He's always gone further than most people expect or want when investigating issues like this. No one knows for sure, but I have no reason to think Goodell saw the tape and did nothing or just didn't care about finding out. Hell people have always hated on roger for being too harsh and being to much of a "dictator" and abusing his power
Not only that, even before the TMZ video came out, Goodell acknowledged that he "didn't get it right". I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Then again, I'm not a Saints fan.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:34 pm to LSU82BILL
i'm not a Saints fan either and I don't give him the benefit of the doubt. He's about protecting the shield, not doing the right thing.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:37 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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While I agree that Goodell screwed the pooch on this, and should lose his job for it
Hindsight is 20/20. The commissioner needs to make alot of decisions that are sometimes based on their own merit. Not only does he have to appease the owners, he has to appease players, the NFLPA, the media and the fans. He also has to consider the legal exposure of every decision. In the end, he got it right.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:38 pm to Draconian Sanctions
It's so easy
The NFL saw the video thought 2 games sounded about right and shite the bed when we reacted to the video.
And now they're lying to cover their arse
Simple as that
The NFL saw the video thought 2 games sounded about right and shite the bed when we reacted to the video.
And now they're lying to cover their arse
Simple as that
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:39 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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He's about protecting the shield, not doing the right thing.
So are you insinuating that in this case, those 2 things are mutually exclusive?
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:41 pm to LSU82BILL
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So are you insinuating that in this case, those 2 things are mutually exclusive?
i'm not insinuating it, i'm flat out saying it.
There's no way you can get me to believe he hadn't already seen that video. For whatever reason they were convinced it wouldn't get out and decided that protecting the image of the league was more important than handing down a proper punishment.
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